Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

There's actually more reason for you to invest in a Kaiser if you do happen to pull one from jewcha.

That said, thunder content won't be unmanageable for quite some time, so you might wanna look at the other elements. In terms of events, I would invest in water Kaiser cause fire tower's actually coming pretty soon.

Yeah, I mean If I happen to pull one from jewels gacha I will buy that one to have 1* Kaiser.
I thought to buy dark Kaiser but water Kaiser make sense, then I'll wait until Fire tower and buy Water Kaiser if I get nothing from gacha.

Tbh, I prefer to have a collection of all element Kaiser before I go for LBing the ones I got from gacha. In fact, I had wind & thunder Kaiser from gacha before the orb shop & I've bought light, dark & fire Kaisers, moving onto water next. Those actives are valuable at the end of the day, arguably the best ones in the game. LB0->1 a Kaiser will only bring you a bit of stat increase (about 100 HP & 400 atk) & 10% more elemental value for the corresponding elemental if summoned. Whereas buying a new Kaiser will bring you 30% dmg cut and higher debuff resistance against the corresponding element for a little bit of stat loss. So yeah, that's my standpoint on Kaisers, at least.

Oh, on a side note, those interested in tower might want to consider working on water Kaiser since the first (fire) tower supposedly arrives in 2 months.

Should I use the collab HP sword over a SR assault if my wind team HP is around 6.5k?
Here is my weapon:

Originally Posted by nut

Should I use the collab HP sword over a SR assault if my wind team HP is around 6.5k?
Here is my weapon:

If you feel like you're lacking HP to clear content comfortably, then yes you can. Until you have all SSRs in your grid, you shouldn't really be passing up SSRs anyway.

By the way, why did you use so many + mats on those crappy SR bows, haha.

Originally Posted by VeryVoodoo

If you feel like you're lacking HP to clear content comfortably, then yes you can. Until you have all SSRs in your grid, you shouldn't really be passing up SSRs anyway.

By the way, why did you use so many + mats on those crappy SR bows, haha.

I have to using Andromeda to clear GO and Rag at risk, so yeah, I better using that sword.
About the +, it's transferable so I think I should just put it in random SR to get the bonus then move it to a SSR when I have one.

I was gonna say pass on defender only trash by default, but since you don't have Kyuuki bow apparenly, you can equip the collab sword if you need the HP. My understanding is that wind won't get any more viable event weapons with defender until Garuda 2nd reprint next July.
Although, where would you need more HP? My wind team has less base HP than yours and the collab sword won't make a difference for me.

My main team is water. I was thinking my next miracle would by Ryu-oh, but then today I pulled Ea. So I've got her, Snow Angel Raphael, Cthulu, Aphrodite, Posiedon and SSR Nike. That 6 water SSR in total.

Should I still get Ryu-oh, OR get a Kaiser, OR use the water team I have and use the next miracle to strengthen a different element?

At the very least, you shouldn't ever get a Kaiser for a Miracle Ticket. Well, that's a valid option for ultra whales who have all the SSR Himes but are looking for (more) LMB Kaisers.

However, it's not very reasonable to draw any conclusions just yet on what you should get with your Miracle Ticket. We don't know exactly which Hime will be available on Nutaku version and who knows, you might get lucky and pull a couple of core Hime in some other element by then. So think about it when the time comes, which is not now.

Hi, I'm a new player. I read through Sanahtlig's guide multiple times and browse through several thread on the forum, yet i ended up conflicted about the informations.
Everybody say if you roll a 100% eidolon you're set for the long run (even without any SSR), yet there are several post where people claim certain kamihime parties are "not good" even though they include multiple core SSR of the same element. I get the impression you need a full SSR team of same element for a "good" team based on these post.

1. So how long does that 100% eidolon is enough? Do you need those SSR himes for a good party at the endgame?
2. Is it safe to assume that after i finish with rerolls, i wont see any SSR (based on f2p), and even if i get one, i need to be extremely lucky to get one with the corresponding element?
3. What about 100% eidolon vs multiple core SSR hime? Assuming extreme misfortune, you may not even get important SR's for your element, let alone SSR. Which means full R team with 20-30% debuffs with bound and inflexible soul (or flexible soul at the cost of less debuff).
Does that 100% eidolon compensate enough for all the lacking in hime? What about survivablity, 100% eidolon doesnt compensate for that so what are the options on that front if you lack hime?
4. Assuming all the above mentions, doesnt that mean i should reroll until i get at least a 100% eidolon + core hime, coz missing either would severly limit the team, and free players cant get them after reroll (talk about being between a rock and a hard place)

Thanks ahead for the replies and advices

Originally Posted by Nelerion

Hi, I'm a new player. I read through Sanahtlig's guide multiple times and browse through several thread on the forum, yet i ended up conflicted about the informations.
Everybody say if you roll a 100% eidolon you're set for the long run (even without any SSR), yet there are several post where people claim certain kamihime parties are "not good" even though they include multiple core SSR of the same element. I get the impression you need a full SSR team of same element for a "good" team based on these post.

1. So how long does that 100% eidolon is enough? Do you need those SSR himes for a good party at the endgame?
2. Is it safe to assume that after i finish with rerolls, i wont see any SSR (based on f2p), and even if i get one, i need to be extremely lucky to get one with the corresponding element?
3. What about 100% eidolon vs multiple core SSR hime? Assuming extreme misfortune, you may not even get important SR's for your element, let alone SSR. Which means full R team with 20-30% debuffs with bound and inflexible soul (or flexible soul at the cost of less debuff).
Does that 100% eidolon compensate enough for all the lacking in hime? What about survivablity, 100% eidolon doesnt compensate for that so what are the options on that front if you lack hime?
4. Assuming all the above mentions, doesnt that mean i should reroll until i get at least a 100% eidolon + core hime, coz missing either would severly limit the team, and free players cant get them after reroll (talk about being between a rock and a hard place)

Thanks ahead for the replies and advices

1. A 100% eido makes your life easier. This game is still about grids & how you set your team up. Rerolling a 100% eido serves that purpose since while you missed a lot of events (and hence missed out a lot of chances to build your grid), you get the chance to close that gap by starting off with that 100% eido. It won't put you in the same position as a veteran with well-rounded grids by any means, but it helps a lot. And in the long run, it's still an advantage over them.

2. I wouldn't call it safe to assume so, but yeah, you might want to keep your expectations low. There are some quite lucky f2p guys out there, but the unluckier ones only get a really few SSR KHs & they aren't guaranteed to be on their main team, certainly.

3. The thing about a core hime is that core members of a team change with time. They will still be nice even in the future, but on contrary a 100% eidolon will still be the same 100% eido over time. It also makes it easier for you to find friends.

4. It surely is a nice thing to get.. if you have the patience. Most people get fed up by trying to roll for a 100% alone. More often than not, it's going to be the only SSR on the account. Trying to get another SSR with it, and even on the same element + top it with the hime being actual core gonna take massive time & effort (most likely). If you're up to that, by all means, go ahead.


In conclusion: 100% eido isn't a free pass to endgame content, but gonna make your progress smoother. Multiple core himes of the same element is also a nice way to start out, but that's probably even less likely than a 100% eido of RNG's choice & yet, those himes will fall out of meta sooner or later.