Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

AAB never factors into my thinking as far as advice/suggestions go. By the time you can AAB through a battle, you're well past the point of 100% win probability. I think that as far as discussion goes, it's only meaningful when it concerns changing that probability between 0 to 100. Once you're past guaranteed success and think about autoing for convenience, that's a luxury that you solve on your own time.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Once you're past guaranteed success and think about autoing for convenience, that's a luxury that you solve on your own time.

Except to get to that point in the first place, you're probably going to need fully developed grids to begin with. So when people are running the majority of their grid as SR disaster wpns, should they really be turning their noses up at a defender SSR as being "trash by default" or being offered that as advice then?

Leaving aside the AAB'ing of end-game content then, I've personally seen some people unable to clear things like GOs or some of the raid challenges, even with a lot of assault% etc.. because they too have turned their noses up at defender stuff in general and built full assault grids, stacking things like SR disaster assaults instead. But it turns out having that bit of extra hp actually helps them clear what they otherwise kept failing, because hey suddenly the boss OD that was wiping them before now no longer kills them giving them all those extra turns, surprise, surprise!

I can understand if you've got well developed grids already, and don't plan to min/max stuff for the future, sure you can pass up defenders... but for a guy whose grid seemed to consist mainly of SR disaster assaults, the default advice to him shouldn't be to deem a defender SSR as trash, as it's still actually likely to improve his grid and team in a lot of scenarios.

If it makes a difference in their particular situation, great. I even did say that if they need the HP, they can equip that weapon. Although when I asked 'where would you need the HP', that wasn't rhetorical. That was a request for more details on the situation; which fights/what kamihime are available/stats/etc. etc. My SSR-less wind team has less base HP, only has +HP through Kyuuki bow, probably has less assault, and probably has higher base atk. I picked up 3 ori from Yggdrasil GO (I didn't do the win in 15 turns or all 7 survive missions).

Now for the part where I say 'defender only trash'? Ok, that's a habit of mine dating back to launch. I'm fairly sure that I'm literally the only one who uses that exact phrasing on this forum. If you've seen an unregistered say that since launch, that's me.
Why did I start saying that? There are two halves to it. The first is that obviously I value raising assault more than raising just HP. The other half is thinking about resource allocation. Even back then I already knew that I'd never use a defender only weapon in a serious lategame grid, so it was a question of how much, if any, time/gems/weapons into skill leveling the things. This being before guerilla quests and before my grids hit the point where new SR weapons are superfluous, skill leveling for me was a lot more troublesome. So it was a matter of investing for short term vs long term gains. I concluded that working on defender only trash wasn't worth it for me at all. I also capped leveling my SR's to 12, for that matter.

I don't know specific where I need more HP. I just feel like my HP is too low and more HP would be more safe. Maybe the dark rag since It can one hit me with rage burst + dot, but either way I can't solo it so it doesn't really matter.
I got 5 ori from Yggdrasil but Wind is my only team that can do GO so I need to do off element and I can only do it with Andromeda now. I wonder if I can do Joan mission with more HP, stat and a little Ascension (for Ithaqua).
I have save enough fod to max sl all 3 wind SSR from this 2 advent right away but I also have many other element SSR weapon unskilled.