Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You can also MLB SR Diabolos, stats will be lower, but she works for all elements and is cheaper (2k for 4x Diabolos vs 3750 for 5x char ATK/HP elemental eido).

My bad, it should 3k for 5x char ATK/HP (600 per eidolon, not 750).
Can't edit above post, so if somebody could do this for me and delete this one (or leave it as it is, if it's too much of a hassle).

What do you guys think about the new raid eidolons in DMM, are they worth farming if you already have 100% eidolons? (Considering it's more practical to farm the mats to MLB then than praying for gacha/farming medal from dummy punching event)

Hey all looking for some party advice (again) - largely related to soul weapons but numbers/skill question as well

I keep going back and forth on what's the optimal opening for my dark party. Likely never make a difference, but the fact that I don't know is annoying me heavily. My party is:

Soul (currently herc - not sure who to make resident soul)
Thanatos
Satan (awakened)
Pluto
Amon (Unleashed)

sniper shot --> hades destroyer is a given, but after that I'm at a loss. Satan only applies dark resist down but I know that can be a massive damage boost. Pluto needs to use amphael giazza (wtf name is that?) to apply blocks before buffing for the added dark atk up, and thanatos provides an additional def debuff. I'm sure a lot of this is heavily dependent on gear, but I guess the general question is when applying debuffs, what are the priorities to use first? I've currently been going with Pluto --> Satan --> Thanatos due to debuffs being possible to miss and feeling like dark resist down > 3rd defense down debuff, but unsure if this is true or not. Also - is Herc the right soul for this comp or should I swap to Shingen or something?

My light comp is kinda bad (only have Michael and just got Moonlight Artemis), but was wondering what the go-to soul for light is in general. Comp is:

Herc
Uzume
SSR Artemis
Forseti
Michael

Love the burst gauge stacking, but doesn't seem like Shingen would work as they have long cds. Anywho any/all advice appreciated thanks!

Originally Posted by Saeleyna

Hey all looking for some party advice (again) - largely related to soul weapons but numbers/skill question as well

I keep going back and forth on what's the optimal opening for my dark party. Likely never make a difference, but the fact that I don't know is annoying me heavily. My party is:

Soul (currently herc - not sure who to make resident soul)
Thanatos
Satan (awakened)
Pluto
Amon (Unleashed)

sniper shot --> hades destroyer is a given, but after that I'm at a loss. Satan only applies dark resist down but I know that can be a massive damage boost. Pluto needs to use amphael giazza (wtf name is that?) to apply blocks before buffing for the added dark atk up, and thanatos provides an additional def debuff. I'm sure a lot of this is heavily dependent on gear, but I guess the general question is when applying debuffs, what are the priorities to use first? I've currently been going with Pluto --> Satan --> Thanatos due to debuffs being possible to miss and feeling like dark resist down > 3rd defense down debuff, but unsure if this is true or not. Also - is Herc the right soul for this comp or should I swap to Shingen or something?

My light comp is kinda bad (only have Michael and just got Moonlight Artemis), but was wondering what the go-to soul for light is in general. Comp is:

Herc
Uzume
SSR Artemis
Forseti
Michael

Love the burst gauge stacking, but doesn't seem like Shingen would work as they have long cds. Anywho any/all advice appreciated thanks!

BRUH... wtf are you doing ... so many mistakes...
First: you use Pluto's assault+ele atk buff if you are going to burst and not for skills... thats... common sense... it has 8T CD...
My dark team bursts Turn 4 already, sometimes 5.
Second: Satan debuffs first --> and then the other debuffs...
Thrid: Get Shingen. Because you got already those fast dark KHs and Shingen has better synergy with dark. Tbh I would kick Amon U from the team and replace her with Hades/Osiris/Cherno or Berith (next month release).

For light it depends imo, if you want to use Shingen and main light next year and be OP+fast.
Then you will need at least 3 MTix if you are unlucky... (Micha AW, Lugh/Take, Tish and Iris)
Currently for that set-up Herc is fine and the best solution to give that immortal element somehow more damage.
Shingen will be too fast for light currently, thats going to change next year.

Need help choosing fire soul weapon. I got Mars, Amaterasu, Ares, Fire Beelzebub and Yamaraja. Which soul and weapon should I go for?

Originally Posted by artista

Need help choosing fire soul weapon. I got Mars, Amaterasu, Ares, Fire Beelzebub and Yamaraja. Which soul and weapon should I go for?

If you're in doubt, always Hercules.

Originally Posted by Saeleyna

--
sniper shot --> hades destroyer is a given, but after that I'm at a loss.

Is it a given? Let's see:
-25% A Amon
-20% C Thanatos
-10% Resistance Satan Awakened
= -55% total

You're already past the 50% cap without Sniper Shot. So use PF instead.

->Open Spoiler<-

At some point Amon will get reworked into C, at that point you'll be looking at:
-15% A Satan
-25% C Amon
-10% Resistance Satan Awakened
= -50% total
So you'll still be def capped without Sniper Shot, AND you'll be able to drop Thanatos if you want.

Originally Posted by Saeleyna

-- Also - is Herc the right soul for this comp or should I swap to Shingen or something?
-- but was wondering what the go-to soul for light is in general. Comp is:--

The "which Soul should I use?" thread should answer that. I don't think your teams are fast enough for Shingen until second anniversary patch, so Hercules it is. Shingen's only real benefit for you right now is the ability to use an EX skill while still having PF, so if you need defensive tools, that's probably the way to go. Yeah, Herc's def debuff will be "wasted" but Herc is still just way too good to pass up on.

Originally Posted by artista

Need help choosing fire soul weapon. I got Mars, Amaterasu, Ares, Fire Beelzebub and Yamaraja. Which soul and weapon should I go for?

See above.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Applying Hades Destroyer first is more important as elemental resist also works as affliction resist down for the element, so that dark resist down will increase the rate of the rest of your debuffs landing.

Interesting, would never have guessed that. Thanks for the tip.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Is it a given? Let's see:
-25% A Amon
-20% C Thanatos
-10% Resistance Satan Awakened
= -55% total

You're already past the 50% cap without Sniper Shot. So use PF instead.

I really need to start looking at actual values instead of simply looking at (de)buff icons to tell what takes priority/is most efficient >_<. Based on the numbers you provided I'm assuming dark resist down is part of the 50% cap? That's..... odd to me, unless the normal defense down cap is 40% + 10% cap for elemental resist down. If the generic attack/def debuff cap is 50% though (which includes elemental resist down, atk or def), that just seems like a really bizarre way to go. Not saying you're wrong mind you, just seems odd to me.

Anyway thanks for the super helpful info Aidoru and Slashley as always (including parts not added in quotes for brevity)!

Originally Posted by Saeleyna

Hey all looking for some party advice (again) - largely related to soul weapons but numbers/skill question as well

->Open Spoiler<-

I keep going back and forth on what's the optimal opening for my dark party. Likely never make a difference, but the fact that I don't know is annoying me heavily. My party is:

Soul (currently herc - not sure who to make resident soul)
Thanatos
Satan (awakened)
Pluto
Amon (Unleashed)

sniper shot --> hades destroyer is a given, but after that I'm at a loss. Satan only applies dark resist down but I know that can be a massive damage boost. Pluto needs to use amphael giazza (wtf name is that?) to apply blocks before buffing for the added dark atk up, and thanatos provides an additional def debuff. I'm sure a lot of this is heavily dependent on gear, but I guess the general question is when applying debuffs, what are the priorities to use first? I've currently been going with Pluto --> Satan --> Thanatos due to debuffs being possible to miss and feeling like dark resist down > 3rd defense down debuff, but unsure if this is true or not. Also - is Herc the right soul for this comp or should I swap to Shingen or something?

My light comp is kinda bad (only have Michael and just got Moonlight Artemis), but was wondering what the go-to soul for light is in general. Comp is:

Herc
Uzume
SSR Artemis
Forseti
Michael

Love the burst gauge stacking, but doesn't seem like Shingen would work as they have long cds. Anywho any/all advice appreciated thanks!

Applying Hades Destroyer first is more important as elemental resist also works as affliction resist down for the element, so that dark resist down will increase the rate of the rest of your debuffs landing. So for debuffs, it'd be Satan->SniperShot->Thanatos or Amon->Other debuffs. If you have Sphinx ready, then that before Satan.

The overall amount of def down you have on your dark team is a bit much if you plan to use Herc with her weapon. With Sniper Shot or Hercs' weapon (even at 0 break), using Satan with either Thanatos or Amon is -already 50% def down, making that extra def down from using all 3 himes a potential waste on other utilities, especially so if you had Herc's completed weapon or look at how lackluster Amon becomes is if you get rid of her def down. If you don't have any other useful dark himes, then feel free to keep all 3 but I'd still opt for a different soul, Shingen preferably. You can use Sniper Shot and drop Amon for other resources or keep her and just use Black Prop or something.

Though two things to take note of. First is that using Pluto's buffs will heavily vary on the fight, what you need to look at is whether or not you can clear the fight under 8 turns and how fast your team takes to get to full burst. The second is that Amon will get her skills revamped in the future and her def down will be changed to c-frame, making her def down clash with Thanatos, but letting you reach cap def with just her and Satan, assuming you're still using them by then.

As for light team, Shingen works fine. People always bring up Shingen being too fast or your himes not being fast enough to keep up but that really isn't an issue right now. Either just save her burst or have Shingen solo burst to build up your teams burst. Her weapon at max break gives +30 burst to her after she bursts, in addition to all her other skills, it is incredibly easy for her to catch up. The only major issue with your light team right now is not having Tsukiyomi to reach def down cap, meaning Hercules with her weapon is your best option if you want def down cap, but if you're okay at clearing content with -40%, Shingen with Sniper Shot with your team is fine.

What is the browser people are using? My Chrome 69.0.3497.100 feels seriously slow compared to how it was before.