Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by nut

The spear is by far better than the sword and you'll be able to max level it soon, then flb it later. At flb (and max skill level) it come with 21% assault and 15% HP

The issue is that just leveling it to 125 is taxing for my resources, and I still have lower hanging fruit for replacement when it comes to leveling my grid. I'm not close to guild order, and I'm only now starting to clear Ragnarok Advents, meaning that the resources I spend in leveling the spear is inherently less useful for me at my current level than maxing out the sword.

Originally Posted by KTA

The issue is that just leveling it to 125 is taxing for my resources, and I still have lower hanging fruit for replacement when it comes to leveling my grid. I'm not close to guild order, and I'm only now starting to clear Ragnarok Advents, meaning that the resources I spend in leveling the spear is inherently less useful for me at my current level than maxing out the sword.

The sword isn't a big upgrade, it's just a little better than an SRs weapon at max skill level and require 2x fodder to max skill level, so if you low on resources and can't get both weapons just get the lance and leave it in your inventory until you can leveling it or you'll miss one of the best free SSRs weapon, while you'll throw that sword out later.
If you keep play, you'll eventually able to do guild order and have plenty of resources but that lance only come once. Just remmeber to do gem gacha everyday.
The lance without flb is still much better than the sword. I think you only care about the stats, but skill is the most important part of a weapon.

Originally Posted by nut

The sword isn't a big upgrade, it's just a little better than an SRs weapon at max skill level--

What are you smoking? It's Assault double-skill SSR, that makes it a thousand times better than any SR (so far, until we start getting double-skill SRs).

Before FLB, the Sword is notably better than the Lance. After FLB... well, uh, obviously a non-FLB weapon won't stand a chance.

Originally Posted by Slashley

What are you smoking? It's Assault double-skill SSR, that makes it a thousand times better than any SR (so far, until we start getting double-skill SRs).

Before FLB, the Sword is notably better than the Lance. After FLB... well, uh, obviously a non-FLB weapon won't stand a chance.

But when you can only get one of the two weapons and don't even have enough mats to leveling, will that sword become that much important?
And is the sword notably better than the lance? it only have nearly 300 more atk and an unknown %rush vs 6% assault and nearly 100 more hp.
I already take your advice from the other topic and using the sword instead of a SRs weapon but I didn't consider the Sword a thousand times better upgrade. Just a little upgrade until Dark union event

You're not looking for HP from weapons, you'll get plenty from Eidolons.

Is anyone in the position where they can't get both...? I mean, you can either farm Ultimate and easily get both, or you can't farm Ultimate and you probably can't get... either?

Hmm. If you can't get both for some reason, it'll depend on how far along do you want to look at. IF you can get Lance to MLB and can store the Silver and Gold drops for the FLB later down the line, then the Lance is the stronger option... in the very, very long run. But, keep in mind that a double-skill will absolutely laugh at single-skill weapons, and there's only one skill in the Lance all the way until FLB. Which is going to be a LONG way ahead for anyone who can't farm Ultimate right now.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Before FLB, the Sword is notably better than the Lance. After FLB... well, uh, obviously a non-FLB weapon won't stand a chance.

16% assault vs. 10% assault + 'probably' 3% DA... I am not sure... with stats in mind I would say that Sword may be slightly better, but is it 'notably' better ?

I don't believe that it's 3%, as that wouldn't make sense. For example, in Union buffs 100 stacks of Double+ is 25% and 100 stacks of Triple+ is 10%. The same pattern repeats in combo+ skills (for example Awakened Titania is +50% Double and +30% Triple).

Yet, the JP wiki lists Double+ and Triple+ from weapons at the same values, more or less. While it is possible... I find that highly unlikely - the game "budgets" Double+ at far higher values than Triple+ everywhere. Thus personally, I'd consider that Rush(+) at ~6% Double+.

is it no nut november or no fap november cuz if u fap and dont nut does that count or do you lose if you fap in general hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Originally Posted by Kitty

is it no nut november or no fap november cuz if u fap and dont nut does that count or do you lose if you fap in general hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Asking the hard questions. I prefer to use the mental powers gained from doing neither to telekinetically stimulate my meat.

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Originally Posted by Slashley

I don't believe that it's 3%, as that wouldn't make sense. For example, in Union buffs 100 stacks of Double+ is 25% and 100 stacks of Triple+ is 10%. The same pattern repeats in combo+ skills (for example Awakened Titania is +50% Double and +30% Triple).

Yet, the JP wiki lists Double+ and Triple+ from weapons at the same values, more or less. While it is possible... I find that highly unlikely - the game "budgets" Double+ at far higher values than Triple+ everywhere. Thus personally, I'd consider that Rush(+) at ~6% Double+.

While according to JP wiki Rush and Barrage are both 1% on 20 slvl, Rush(+) is 3% and Barrage(+) is 2% at 20 slvl. Combo data is extremaly tedious to get, so this data is in fact quite unreliable. But if we do consider values of Rush to be much higher than JP wiki states, that would pose a question: are fire UE Bow and Andramelech bow that bad ?

Aside from that though, Lance is much cheaper on gold mats (55 with FLB vs. 120), so I think farming it in experts is relatively possible.