Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Gludateton

It goes both sides though, sometimes damage is what allows you to clear some content (maybe excluding Joan with her spear, but even that may not be enough).

Again, it depends. It can go both ways but it can also not. Say there is content you can't clear with Hercules without her weapon, what are the chances you could clear that with another soul without their weapon but one who provides more team utility like Joan or Mordred? I think there's a good possibility that you could.

It's not only about 'missing' Kamihime. You can have some debuffer Kamihime and you may want Axe because it'll let you replace her with someone else. Such is the case with mentioned before dark team. Dejnov has Susanoo, Osiris and debuffer SRs (Lu Bu, Nyar). If you'll get Thanatos and go for all-hime DEF down, you'll have to throw either Susanoo (most probably) or Osiris.
Tbh in this situation I'd either go with Mordred/Thanatos/Susanoo/Nyar/Osiris for balanced team, or Herc (with at least 1LB axe)/Thanatos/Susanoo/Lu Bu/Osiris for offensive (for some BT raid kicking or when team is ready to set Mordred aside).

For the person asking for help with his dark team, I already brought up my opinion if he grabbed Thanatos. Shingen or stick with Mordred if he ISN'T going to get Hercules' ax. He doesn't have Shingen yet and mentioned he's going to hold on Hercules' ax, though this discussion we've been having might change his mind. If he goes Thanatos+Shingen, he can use Sniper Shot and replace Lu Bu with Susanoo while still having all and more essentials than a Hercules' team of the same composition. Otherwise, yes, the other set ups are more or less what I would suggest too.

Having free hime slots is good but there's no point in having them if you don't have anyone good to put in those slots.

Originally Posted by GabKarol

I have Shiva, Poseidon and Nike Unleashed. Which soul/relic weapon should I get since I can only afford 1 at the moment?(I have all available souls)

Edit: Or at least work towards

I'd go either with Herc's axe or Shingen's spear.
As a slightly off-topic remark: Herc will like this team, seeing how much buffs it has (not to mention three assault buffs, all of different frames).

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Again, it depends. It can go both ways but it can also not. Say there is content you can't clear with Hercules without her weapon, what are the chances you could clear that with another soul without their weapon but one who provides more team utility like Joan or Mordred? I think there's a good possibility that you could.

That was more of a general statement, than Herc defending.
I just meant that sometimes damage is what makes doing some content possible (and by damage I mean going with very offensive, glass-cannonish like build).

Still heavily working on a lot of my grids, and was wondering where pride weapons stand in the tiering for weapons. From my understanding, they end up doing slightly more than SSR assaults at a certain breakpoint, and always give some bonus damage, however the exact values I'm not sure of. Most of my weapon grids have a couple of (to many) SRs in them, or off-element SSRs purely for their stats, and with the union battles rolling around multiple times now have a couple of extra pride sets that I could add in to my grid, but not sure if it's worth replacing say an SR assault for example. Like I said this is not an optimal scenario so please no SSR assault always > pride or anything like that.

Also, quick question about souls. I know there's a separate soul selection topic, but I'm trying to prep for the water GO and wondering if it's worth even investing in a soul weapon period atm as my lightning comp is pretty poor. Current lightning comp is:

Mordred
Brahma (just got - finally got a lightning SSR after having 4 for 3 different elements >_<)
Noel
Cyclops
Ramiel

Last guild order I was running Joan and got pretty far simply due to (I'm assuming) -50% atk down + def up from remiel + joan shield, however there was zero chance of clearing wave 4. I have a substantially better weapon grid than before (and working on skill leveling weapons), so I feel like I might have a chance at clearing, but I also know it will be sketchy either way and don't want to waste mats on a soul weapon for a soul I'll potentially never care about using after getting a more stable comp. I only have enough for 1 soul weapon btw.

With all the recent focus on Herc and her axe Def debuff, does the effect last indefinitely after she bursts or just the whole turn?

Originally Posted by Kofie

With all the recent focus on Herc and her axe Def debuff, does the effect last indefinitely after she bursts or just the whole turn?

You mean the def debuff? Its like sniper shot and what not, 1 minute and something if im not wrong.

Originally Posted by artista

You mean the def debuff? Its like sniper shot and what not, 1 minute and something if im not wrong.

25% (at MLB), eido/ wep frame, 3 mins.

For reference, sniper is B frame 20%.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

25% (at MLB), eido/ wep frame, 3 mins.

For reference, sniper is B frame 20%.

I know its different frames, just saying its similar in terms of duration, I just didnt know how long it lasted.

Originally Posted by Saeleyna

Still heavily working on a lot of my grids, and was wondering where pride weapons stand in the tiering for weapons.

4th limit break potential tends to trump other factors. The Union Pride weapons are very good because they can all be 4th limit breaked, especially if the second skill is useful. Coincidentally, that also makes them good targets for your +'s.

Originally Posted by Saeleyna

-- Most of my weapon grids have a couple of (to many) SRs in them, or off-element SSRs purely for their stats, and with the union battles rolling around multiple times now have a couple of extra pride sets that I could add in to my grid, but not sure if it's worth replacing say an SR assault for example.--

Absolutely worth it. Even without FLB and at 100% HP, a SR Assault is 13% with ~1800 Atk and SSR Assault is 10% with ~2300 Atk. Pride hits 13% at 85% HP, and 16% at 70% HP (the same as pure SSR Assaults). After that, they become even better.

Prides are GOOD. It's not even a question until your have a full SSR grid, and using FLB Prides is not even a question until you have full FLB grid.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Absolutely worth it. Even without FLB and at 100% HP, a SR Assault is 13% with ~1800 Atk and SSR Assault is 10% with ~2300 Atk. Pride hits 13% at 85% HP, and 16% at 70% HP (the same as pure SSR Assaults). After that, they become even better.

Prides are GOOD. It's not even a question until your have a full SSR grid, and using FLB Prides is not even a question until you have full FLB grid.

I'm assuming "SSR Assault is 10% with ~2300 Atk" is meant to say Pride. Good to know makes my life a lot easier (at least for my lightning grid). Thanks.