Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

In general:

Water is probably a bit easier to start out on, it's very flexible, has lots of access to debuffs, healing, decent SRs, including free ones (although getting some of the older ones might be a bit more difficult if you're starting out now). It does tend to have a lower damage ceiling, and falls a bit behind at the higher end, but if you're willing to spend for the really strong SSRs, then it'll be fine. Also, worth mentioning is Water UE is about to start, and Rudra's revival is also right around the corner, giving your water grid a huge boost (you probably won't be able to FLB right away, but just read up on what you need and save mats).

Thunder is the opposite, harder to start on since it generally lacks debuffs and healing on all but a few specific unit (thunder teams tend to be very tight), but has a higher ceiling as you get stronger and spend willing to spend. Also, you missed the first Thunder UE with FLB, so will be somewhat behind.

Ideally, I'd say play both if you can (at least minimally to pick up jewels from events) until new years, then try to roll for thunder aphrodite, if you get it on thunder, go with that (as she is a really powerful aid for thunder teams and can't be gotten normally). If not, go with water. Or just pick the better accounts then with a little more to choose from.

I think Water will be better for my budget based on what everyone is saying. If you don't mind, can you explain to me what you mean by Water UE and Rudra's revival? Totally newbie here

Originally Posted by Mirai

I think Water will be better for my budget based on what everyone is saying. If you don't mind, can you explain to me what you mean by Water UE and Rudra's revival? Totally newbie here

water UE is union event - 2 SSR weapons with FLB are very solid boost for newbie if your union can do all rewards.

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

Really Nutaku?

That's on DMM, Nutaku does zero development on core game mechanics. Possibly not even when it comes to events and such, though we can't really tell what happens behind the scenes.

Originally Posted by Mirai

I think Water will be better for my budget based on what everyone is saying. If you don't mind, can you explain to me what you mean by Water UE and Rudra's revival? Totally newbie here

For my two pennies, I agree that Water is easier to start with. In general Water SRs are higher quality, and same with their SSRs should you randomly luck one out.

UE = Union Event. These events are great for players in decent Unions, but absolutely terrible for players who are in weak Unions or outside Unions entirely. I'm not sure if a new player can expect to find their way into a Union that can feed you all the rewards for free... if you can find one, you'll gain a HUGE boost to your Rudra account though.

"Rudra" revival was most likely referring to Rahab revival, which is a Water Advent event. It's probably too soon for you to clear Ultimate Advents at that point though, so it won't be a massive boost to you, but absolutely much better than nothing.

And just to add something:

Please do not mtix Nike U.

... that's not enough emphasis.

PLEASE DO NOT MTIX NIKE U

Heals are good for newbies sure, but you can cover that with Andromeda as a soul first. Nike U falls short very quickly when it comes to overall water setup in late game because she does literally nothing but heal while other functions she has, literally everyone does better. And you don't want to be wasting 50 bucks on a time-limited money-costing hime just to ease through early content... only to find yourself stuck in higher level content.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

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Heals are good for newbies sure, but you can cover that with Andromeda as a soul first. --

Cassiopeia*

Please don't encourage new players to fall into the Andromeda trap

Originally Posted by Slashley

Cassiopeia*

Please don't encourage new players to fall into the Andromeda trap

Ah right, nice catch.

Big sweat

Switch the phrasing. Andromeda later on, if you really find yourself struggling with heals.

Edit: As a side note, do remember that early content drops potions that you can use to heal. As far as raids go, you can get carried and get a free team heal once by using the emotes. So frankly speaking, as a newbie there's options for healing outside of... Nike U.

Seriously though fuck Nike U. She just got a buff in DMM and she still fucking sucks.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

And just to add something:

Please do not mtix Nike U.

... that's not enough emphasis.

PLEASE DO NOT MTIX NIKE U

Heals are good for newbies sure, but you can cover that with Andromeda as a soul first. Nike U falls short very quickly when it comes to overall water setup in late game because she does literally nothing but heal while other functions she has, literally everyone does better. And you don't want to be wasting 50 bucks on a time-limited money-costing hime just to ease through early content... only to find yourself stuck in higher level content.

Thanks for the clarification. What soul should I be saving soul points for a water team?

Originally Posted by Mirai

Thanks for the clarification. What soul should I be saving soul points for a water team?

The general progression goes:

Gawain (for her A frame def down debuff) > Mordred/ D'Artagnan > things after you get both

Mordred is a debuff spam soul, and will likely be of use to you from low to mid level content until you get access to relic weapons (that topic is basically for another day).

D'Art has 2 purposes: snatch (increases drop rate of items, will be useful in events such as advent, or in daily quests), and her sniper shot debuff, which drops in a hefty 20% B frame atk and def down, which is definitely another useful thing to have. On another note, her self-heal gives her a slight bit of survivability edge over Mordred early game. You'll eventually want to switch to Mord tho.

I think Slashley did a breakdown of this for newbies some time ago? I forgot if he did it on a post or thread. Slash?

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

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I think Slashley did a breakdown of this for newbies some time ago? I forgot if he did it on a post or thread. Slash?

That would be this thread.

It will probably hold true forever, at least until we get Soul changes, which I don't think we will get. Once we hit Second Anniversary I'll probably need to slightly modify it for age of Shingen, but since it takes new players a whopping six months to get their hands on Shingen... ... ...
DMM WHY YOU NERF HOLY SOUL POINT GAIN

Originally Posted by Slashley

That would be this thread.

It will probably hold true forever, at least until we get Soul changes, which I don't think we will get. Once we hit Second Anniversary I'll probably need to slightly modify it for age of Shingen, but since it takes new players a whopping six months to get their hands on Shingen... ... ...
DMM WHY YOU NERF HOLY SOUL POINT GAIN

There's a UE drought near the end of this year in DMM too... so...

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