Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

And just to add something:

Please do not mtix Nike U.

... that's not enough emphasis.

PLEASE DO NOT MTIX NIKE U

Heals are good for newbies sure, but you can cover that with Andromeda as a soul first. Nike U falls short very quickly when it comes to overall water setup in late game because she does literally nothing but heal while other functions she has, literally everyone does better. And you don't want to be wasting 50 bucks on a time-limited money-costing hime just to ease through early content... only to find yourself stuck in higher level content.

Thanks for the clarification. What soul should I be saving soul points for a water team?

Originally Posted by Mirai

Thanks for the clarification. What soul should I be saving soul points for a water team?

The general progression goes:

Gawain (for her A frame def down debuff) > Mordred/ D'Artagnan > things after you get both

Mordred is a debuff spam soul, and will likely be of use to you from low to mid level content until you get access to relic weapons (that topic is basically for another day).

D'Art has 2 purposes: snatch (increases drop rate of items, will be useful in events such as advent, or in daily quests), and her sniper shot debuff, which drops in a hefty 20% B frame atk and def down, which is definitely another useful thing to have. On another note, her self-heal gives her a slight bit of survivability edge over Mordred early game. You'll eventually want to switch to Mord tho.

I think Slashley did a breakdown of this for newbies some time ago? I forgot if he did it on a post or thread. Slash?

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

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I think Slashley did a breakdown of this for newbies some time ago? I forgot if he did it on a post or thread. Slash?

That would be this thread.

It will probably hold true forever, at least until we get Soul changes, which I don't think we will get. Once we hit Second Anniversary I'll probably need to slightly modify it for age of Shingen, but since it takes new players a whopping six months to get their hands on Shingen... ... ...
DMM WHY YOU NERF HOLY SOUL POINT GAIN

Originally Posted by Slashley

That would be this thread.

It will probably hold true forever, at least until we get Soul changes, which I don't think we will get. Once we hit Second Anniversary I'll probably need to slightly modify it for age of Shingen, but since it takes new players a whopping six months to get their hands on Shingen... ... ...
DMM WHY YOU NERF HOLY SOUL POINT GAIN

There's a UE drought near the end of this year in DMM too... so...

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Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

The general progression goes:

Gawain (for her A frame def down debuff) > Mordred/ D'Artagnan > things after you get both

Mordred is a debuff spam soul, and will likely be of use to you from low to mid level content until you get access to relic weapons (that topic is basically for another day).

D'Art has 2 purposes: snatch (increases drop rate of items, will be useful in events such as advent, or in daily quests), and her sniper shot debuff, which drops in a hefty 20% B frame atk and def down, which is definitely another useful thing to have. On another note, her self-heal gives her a slight bit of survivability edge over Mordred early game. You'll eventually want to switch to Mord tho.

I think Slashley did a breakdown of this for newbies some time ago? I forgot if he did it on a post or thread. Slash?

Nowdays it's Mordred=>Cassy=>Herc=>Gawain/D'arty/Joan=>any other. Herc is just too strong to avoid. On HS - Shingen first, then Morgan.
Join rognarok raids to leech items (if you will join water rag - just use your active skills and stop - you will decrease damage for top tier players, read a thread for mechanics). First relic weapon must be Herc axe.
P.S. Do anyone know, when Mordred was reworked (chance of all outrage debuffs application except hearths become 100% with VoF)? it makes ambush not needed at all for beginners.
p. p. s. No ele advantage needed, just no ele disadvantage+ VoF. Mordred + ambush combo... i was always thinking that outrage has aframe def + attack debuffs so it doesn't stack with ambush, just with ss. Cass before Mordred.. i would say that Nike is ok heal at first lvls. Mordred is so huge power spike so i recomend to get her ASAP. She may almost double your damage vs single target with bad grid.
just tried Mordred+ ambush - outrage is realy bframe... wierd, but even then i would recomend to get Gawain after Mordred and Cassy and if you don't have at least 15% aframe debuff from hime.

Originally Posted by Mraktar

Nowdays it's Mordred=>Cassy=>Herc=>Gawain/D'arty/Joan=>any other. Herc is just too strong to avoid. On HS - Shingen first, then Morgan.

I dunno, I'd say that Gawain and Cass are before Mordred. Ambush is just super good and Gawain is cheap. Cass since heals are very good for brand new players and she's also very cheap, plus Dispel is an absolute requirement for SOME content. This might not always apply, but uh, you'll really like Cass for Rahab as a weaker player. And that's coming up soon.

Originally Posted by Mraktar

P.S. Do anyone know, when Mordred was reworked (chance of all outrage debuffs application except hearths become 100% with VoF)? it makes ambush not needed at all for beginners.

News to me. Does that include Blind? And does this require elemental advantage?
And what does Ambush have to do with it? Ambush stacks with Outrage, so -30% Def Down is plenty better than -10% Def Down from Outrage alone.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Ambush stacks with Outrage, so -30% Def Down is plenty better than -10% Def Down from Outrage alone.

The good ole' outrage+ambush combo. Pretty much all I ever used as a beginner for a long, long time. It gets -30%def/-10%atk on a soul as a beginner without relying on any himes, which was excellent for me. Sure with d'art or gawain, you can get it up to -40%def/-20%atk, but the downside is they don't bring VoF or BP then, two incredibly useful skills for beginners to have that helps clear a lot of content in your early days.

Really though, I don't envy new players at all nowadays... they have such a curve to catch up on... and the fact that HSP souls are locked behind stuff like UEs only makes it that much harder for them. Even just to close the gap to the currently existing player-base (if that's something they even want to attempt), they'd have to be mega-grinders if anything.

This might be a silly question, but is there a place I can check to see with KH’s are currently available by miracle ticket? Or is it just everyone as long as they’re not limited?

Originally Posted by Mirai

This might be a silly question, but is there a place I can check to see with KH’s are currently available by miracle ticket? Or is it just everyone as long as they’re not limited?

You can click on the gacha itself, and there should be a tab below the buy button which brings you to the miracle ticket selection panel. Then... scrolling hell as it takes 10 years to load in the models.

That miracle ticket you're seeing now is the one from last season so I'm not sure until what point. The miracle ticket you'll see in a couple of weeks time should include every non-limited hime up till the ticket's release. That means any new releases past the miracle ticket point won't be included in the pool.