Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by AutoCrimson

new year, new drama

New year? We still have 2018

oh roight speaking of new years

there's a new gacha campaign in DMM with all the most "cute princess" rates up, and again they've made it so each and every player gets one free x10 premium draw per day (literally a 3k draw for free) man it's so gucci. so far i've gotten a few new kamis, fafnir and uriel dupe over there. the rates up really are a thing.
i just hope nutaku won't change it up when it comes our turn. i think we should have a gacha like that sometime around august.. for the first time anyway.

also i think the gacha campaign lasts for 10 days? not sure tho.

Is Acala worth awakening? She, Mars, and Yamaraja are my only fire ssr kamis atm (I have Belial)

Is the upcoming SSR nike worth going for? As I have a light team I'm curious if I should use jewels to go for her or save for any better upcoming Light Kamihime's? Only reason I'm looking at SSR Nike is that burst gauge fill... Tho not sure how those amulets will work.

i'd say worth.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is the upcoming SSR nike worth going for? As I have a light team I'm curious if I should use jewels to go for her or save for any better upcoming Light Kamihime's? Only reason I'm looking at SSR Nike is that burst gauge fill... Tho not sure how those amulets will work.

There are blatantly better ones. Light Nike is under the "ok" category in terms of tier, since she takes forever to actually get anything going.

Tishtriya comes directly after Nike, so if anything I'd suggest you go after her rate up instead.

Speaking of tish, here's a ping to all using slashley's encyclopedia for you to reconsider her usefulness:

Skill 2 uptime and cooldown is mixed up. She casts all those offensive buffs lasting 5T, and has a 3T cd on the skill. That's actually borken.

To be fair, all light himes released after Tish are all pretty solid as well. Especially look out for Lugh and Iris after Tish.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

There are blatantly better ones. Light Nike is under the "ok" category in terms of tier, since she takes forever to actually get anything going.

Light Nike is the absolute Queen is long combat, but the question is: "Are there any long fights in Kamihime?"
Unless you are really struggling and tanking your way through GO, the answer to that is no so far. And for the next year.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Speaking of tish, here's a ping to all using slashley's encyclopedia for you to reconsider her usefulness:

Skill 2 uptime and cooldown is mixed up. She casts all those offensive buffs lasting 5T, and has a 3T cd on the skill. That's actually borken.

Oops. Fixed. If anyone spots any mistakes in there, please point them out. I've said it before and I'll say it again: with thousands of cells in there, it's guaranteed that there's lots of mistakes in there. You can't PM anymore though since my inbox is full, hue hue.

I still wouldn't say that it's broken when she can only upkeep two Hime with her buffs, but JESUS that's a lot of Assault and particularly Triple rate. That certainly makes sense now why people like her so much.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

To be fair, all light himes released after Tish are all pretty solid as well. Especially look out for Lugh and Iris after Tish.

When it comes to Jewel usage, I'd rather ask the question "Are you ever going to find what you want to find?" or "Is any non-Limited Hime ever worth saving Jewels on?"
You can always Miracle Ticket non-Limited after all. But yes, if you can find somebody like Tish straight up, that's always nice.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Light Nike is the absolute Queen is long combat, but the question is: "Are there any long fights in Kamihime?"
Unless you are really struggling and tanking your way through GO, the answer to that is no so far. And for the next year.

I've seen JP ppl upload videos of using her in the punching bag dmg events sometimes from next year as well. Though they could just be meme-ing with her.

UE ultimates can get really long if you're soloing them, just by nature of their ever growing HP. And if the idea of having to solo a demon fight is foreign to you, then you don't know the struggle of hanging around rank 100 :P
Like the last time we had Envy, I think ult fights in the 100-110 area took me 40+ turns.

Acala is 'worth' awakening in the sense that it actually does move her up a tier or two. The thing is, base Acala starts out at 'come off the bench at best' tier* due to being lackluster for an SSR at her role (that's the nice way of putting it). For an SSR, she was one of the worst possible ones to roll. Awakening Acala makes her actually good at fighting raging enemies, like she was ostensibly designed to do. It raises her to usable! You no longer have to hate yourself for rolling her! And in your case, she automatically gets a starting spot over Yamaraja when fighting wind catastrophe or Lust.

*assuming a decent selection of SRs to work with. The last time I used base Acala as a starter was when I still had to piece my fire team together from R's

Well... yikes the ban strike... but guess you'll read this 3 days later.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Light Nike is the absolute Queen is long combat, but the question is: "Are there any long fights in Kamihime?"
Unless you are really struggling and tanking your way through GO, the answer to that is no so far.

You see, that's where I've realised... not exactly.

Stacking to +120% assault seems like a really potent thing, but in reality you're getting there in 12T. Ok, maybe 12T isn't far, but then let's see what's her other skills... ah the +100 burst.

Looks good doesn't it? Stack amulets, and whale FB repeatedly. Well, except 2 things. First, are you gonna keep up that assault buff, or run for the FB setup instead? It doesn't look good either way. You get a net gain of 1 amulet per 5 turns by spamming atk up stacks... which means 35 turns to get that FB going. Yikes. And Nike doesn't have any BG outside of that skill. If you drop that for FB setups instead... well you lose out on all those assault stacks. And still take 10T to get your first FB out.

That brings me to: second, that FB skill isn't really all that awesome once you see what light can do... without Nike. Pretty sure you'd have heard stories of light chain bursting like wind does, and if you apply the FB gain rate Nike has to chaingun teams... it's not exactly the best. And that's not considering the other things they are doing outside of just burst setups. Nike in this case will be nothing but an FB slave... while the other himes have other utilities to add to the equation.

Well... just put some thought behind that and compare that to the current light SSRs we have now. Is she really the queen of slow paced gameplay, or is she... just a glorified turtle?

I still wouldn't say that it's broken when she can only upkeep two Hime with her buffs, but JESUS that's a lot of Assault and particularly Triple rate. That certainly makes sense now why people like her so much.

Certainly... not alone. This ties in to what I said about light being a chaingun FB type element. Many dps based light himes can hold up their BG just fine. Notably, Lugh tends to be a very suicidal hime... so naturally you'd bring a Sol to sustain her dps. Wait, but Sol's BG... Right, there's Tish to beef her TA rate. Problem solved. Or perhaps you could run light Athena to facetank dem single targets, and use Tish's heal to support Lugh. Well, light Athena also doesn't exactly have the godliest of BG, so again, TA up. And that's just 1 necessary hime. She can upkeep 2, so even if the hime doesn't need TA, that's still a lot of extra dmg from TA, assault and maybe crit.

And that's just a few simple examples of what could be. Like the current wind meta, where the last member often falls behind on BG (save Aether, and she sometimes struggles if she doesn't get enough DATA off), Tish is like the Titania of the bunch, making sure anyone who's naturally slower doesn't fall behind on BG.

dummy-kun

Ah... lemme just list down the several things about this event:

1. Your rank is determined based on the highest amount of dmg you dish out on the dummy in a single turn.
2. Dummy-kun def breaks himself over time to a max of 45% at 10T.
3. You have 12T for each run.
4. Dummy-kun's debuff res rivals, if not surpasses, lvl 90 wind rag boss debuff res.

... I'll let y'all think how it works.

In the meantime, one more thing to note:
120% assault from light Nike... or vigor buff? You do the maths.