Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Question on eidolon orbs.

I have roughly 10k orbs, but not really sure what would make most sense to buy from eidolon orb shop. I'm assuming the main thing to buy is SSR dragoons, but not sure if it makes more sense to get a duplicate (I have 1 for water and wind) or for an element I don't currently have one. For reference, my main eidolons currently are (in element order): Belial, Tiamat, Icarus, Tartarus (/Amaru/Girimehkala- need to do the math on which would make most sense), Yule Goat, and Echidna (yes I'm aware SSR dragoons don't go in main slot, just listing in case they should be replaced with 40/20 eidolon). I could see the argument for getting Jormungandr, Quetzal, or Thunderbird/Yggdrasil, but I just feel like getting the dragoon could help so much more. Thoughts/comments? Also random question, if you get 2 SSR dragoons of the same element, can you just equip both of them to have more uptime on the buff instead of break limiting them?

tl;dr: atk/hp eidolon or dragoon from orb shop, and if dragoon duplicate to break limit or 1 of each element first?

Originally Posted by Saeleyna

tl;dr: atk/hp eidolon or dragoon from orb shop, and if dragoon duplicate to break limit or 1 of each element first?

There is no point wasting orbs in the eido store on any other eidos besides the kaisers. The kaisers have the best on-use summon of any eido, and that's the main reason why it's beneficial to have that for every element (or at the very least, the ones you use). Some people might advise you to first get something like another MLB tiamat for your eido grid stats, but eido orbs for kaisers are already slow enough to farm as it stands, that ultimately all you're doing is delaying yourself from acquiring the kaisers even longer.

As for whether dupes or new ones, depends on how strong your teams are and how often you use the specific elements I guess. While I have no idea about your teams, the fact that you have Belial could make the fire kaiser a good choice. Then again, thunder would be good for the next tower coming up as well. So that's something you'd have to decide based on your teams and what you use.

Originally Posted by Slashley

99% probably is, but I don't think that anyone below Rank 80 will see your help request. I don't know how exactly the system works, but so far low ranked people haven't really ruined any raids for me.
Just not joining Ult Waters from randoms, because fuck that shit.

Well to me, rank doesn't mean much either. There are plenty of rank 100+ ppl that are just as weak as babes and wouldn't do much before dying on AAB.

Sorry, idiot warning..
I'm like level 50 and still havent gotten past desert of main story. Other than jewels, are there any perks to completing it?

Originally Posted by Zev

I'm like level 50 and still havent gotten past desert of main story. Other than jewels, are there any perks to completing it?

If you've already gotten the 4 free story kamis (nike, amon, cybele, baal), then no, there are no other perks besides jewels continuing on.

Then again, jewels themselves are still a pretty good perk, no? At least, they've always been a primary motivator for me.

Right, right. But how can you sustain jewel intake after the story? I think i remember some jewel-rewards from the last event but weren't they meager?
Like, I remember seeing a guy who saved 40k for Tish... like, wtf? Howw??

Originally Posted by Zev

Right, right. But how can you sustain jewel intake after the story? I think i remember some jewel-rewards from the last event but weren't they meager?
Like, I remember seeing a guy who saved 40k for Tish... like, wtf? Howw??

50 Jewels from daily quests, every day. Almost 100 Jewels from the constant login bonuses. Most events reward 3k Jewels, for Union events that means really high ranking though. I'd say monthly Jewel income is about 13k-ish for veteran players. So 40k is "just" three months.

Still, what you can expect for 40k Jewels is... fuck all
But hey, that's pretty much the only way you CAN get SSR Hime, so I guess it's something!

I've been pretty lucky with this account thus far. 80 spent, and have Girim, Ourobor, Echidna, 4 fire ssrs, 3 darks, one wind, electric, and water. So.. karmas gonna be a bitch to me for playing free from here on out... sigh.
What can we expect for the next event, jewel-wise?

Originally Posted by VeryVoodoo

There is no point wasting orbs in the eido store on any other eidos besides the kaisers. The kaisers have the best on-use summon of any eido, and that's the main reason why it's beneficial to have that for every element (or at the very least, the ones you use). Some people might advise you to first get something like another MLB tiamat for your eido grid stats, but eido orbs for kaisers are already slow enough to farm as it stands, that ultimately all you're doing is delaying yourself from acquiring the kaisers even longer.

People like me.


Having a Kaiser is like a cherry on top of your cake. There's little point in having a cherry without a cake. In other words - get your basics into shape first. Veterans often don't really grasp just how useful main Eidolons are for newer players, since all of us got them from events we ran ages ago.

With Belial, for all non-Water content you'll probably just run Fire. I guess that pretty much only means a good Thunder main Eidolon. Either Ygg for HP with Kirin friends, or Amaru if you don't want to rely on finding Kirin friends. In addition, MLB Tiamat is basically the best thing you can have in all your Grids, so buying an element-specific Kaiser doesn't make much sense to me before your Tiamat is up and running. Once it's time to buy a Kaiser though, I'd certainly buy a Fire one first to compliment your Belial team.

Originally Posted by Zev

Sorry, idiot warning..
I'm like level 50 and still havent gotten past desert of main story. Other than jewels, are there any perks to completing it?

Once you have SR Cybele, not really. Unless you want SR Baal, who would be somewhat useful for the upcoming Water tower, I guess.

Originally Posted by Slashley

People like me.


Having a Kaiser is like a cherry on top of your cake. There's little point in having a cherry without a cake. In other words - get your basics into shape first. Veterans often don't really grasp just how useful main Eidolons are for newer players, since all of us got them from events we ran ages ago.

With Belial, for all non-Water content you'll probably just run Fire. I guess that pretty much only means a good Thunder main Eidolon. Either Ygg for HP with Kirin friends, or Amaru if you don't want to rely on finding Kirin friends. In addition, MLB Tiamat is basically the best thing you can have in all your Grids, so buying an element-specific Kaiser doesn't make much sense to me before your Tiamat is up and running. Once it's time to buy a Kaiser though, I'd certainly buy a Fire one first to compliment your Belial team.

Unfortunately, my fire comp is garbage (with only Dakki as SSR) and my grid is somewhat lackluster. My main 2 by far are water and wind (both have full SSR comp), which my dark comp being pretty good (Thanatos, Satan, Hades, Pluto, Amon), but grid still needing work. I was thinking of just getting the dark kaiser as my dark comp is solid just need more decent weapons for my grid which will come with time, but my light grid is really nice just lacking SSRs (only have michael and arty). So in other words, everything but my water and wind grid are missing something pretty important that I can't just instantly fix, and I already have water and wind kaiser dragoons from jewel pulls >_<. You still think it's worth going for fire over dark/light with only dakki in my comp? I mean yea belial is nice ofc, and with d'art soul weapon giving me -50% def I do decent damage, but the comp is just not there to support it (running d'art, themis, kagutsuchi, dakki, and agni for reference).

Originally Posted by Saeleyna

Unfortunately, my fire comp is garbage --

For Fire, a good team is always just one Miracle Ticket away. If that's not an option, well, good luck.

The difference that Belial makes should still make Fire a good option though.

Originally Posted by Gludateton

Damage cut lasts for set number of attacks, 25 iirc. So no, technically he doesn't wait it out.

Oh, fair enough.

Originally Posted by Gludateton

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He's Light main, so his grid is probably on whole another level. I think that you would hit slightly higher FB with your team, if you'd enhance all your weapons to max slvl.

... my Grids have been max slvl for months. With the exception of Light Herc Axe, which isn't a priority in the slightest as my Light team is complete garbage anyway. My Grids and elemental stats are public in the damage calc.

So, since you can just casually do so much damage, what kind of numbers are you pulling in your strongest teams?

Originally Posted by LeCrestfallen

his grid is posted in the vid below, its basicly every light event weapon flb and +99.
No gacha weapons/himeless weapons in the grid. basicly stuff everyone that played from the beginning would have (except maybe for a second copy of the gun, which just shows his willingness to grind another mlb copy).

Yes, his weapon grid. And a screenshot of it, not shown in the actual video. Well, chances are it's shown in other videos. Point is, it raises question of just how much higher his Eidolons are.