Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Dejnov

Keeping trial by jury is fine. Try out Encourage Inspiration with your Dark team and see if they're actually clearing content that you can't with Trial by Jury. GO is a great place to try out how your team works. It's got single bosses and groups and all elements so that allows you to see how you'd do in general. The ultimate raids are a great place to check out your capability also.


Dejnov.

My Dark team can solo light Ults down to about a quarter of their health or less on autobattle. But my lights only got a dark ult down to about half when I was actually paying attention. Probably need Eros in the main party for that, I suppose.

I'm curious about my Waters and Fires too, if I could ask for advice. They're way behind on weapon upgrades compared to my lights and darks for the most part, but I can figure that out later. More interested in team composition right now. They'll probably need some Miracle tickets to round out, but I think they might have some potential. My Winds are beyond hope, though, and my Thunders are probably only a bit better.

My Water SSRs are Ryu-oh, Ashera, Ea, and Saraswati. I feel like the latter is kinda useless when I have Ashera...does she have any place in my team? I'm only using her because she's an SSR. Right now my main party has Ryu-oh, Ea (formerly Belphegor), Ashera, and Atalanta, with Venus and Saraswati as subs. I just switched to Andromeda for my soul, only to find out I don't have any SSR water weapons she can use. But since Nike kinda sucks I figure she's my best Soul option. Does that sound right? And is it okay to only have her with an SR main weapon?

As for my Fires I have Mars, Acala, Ares, Beelzebub, and Uriel Awakened. Since I have Uriel, I dunno if Ares and Acala are worth using. And I figure Beelzebub is probably the worst SSR ever, so...yeah. My team is Uriel Awakened, Mars, Brynhildr, and Hephaestus, with Ares and Acala as subs. Does that sound sensible? Dunno who my Soul should be, but for the time being it's Mordred.

I should probably mention that Shingen's Light Lance is the only Soul Weapon I have. Period. I have enough Dark chalices for two copies of something, but all other elements can't even buy one yet. Didn't realize how important they could be until a month or two ago, and I've mostly just been grinding for the Lights.

Originally Posted by Argo

My Dark team can solo light Ults down to about a quarter of their health or less on autobattle. But my lights only got a dark ult down to about half when I was actually paying attention. Probably need Eros in the main party for that, I suppose.

I'm curious about my Waters and Fires too, if I could ask for advice. They're way behind on weapon upgrades compared to my lights and darks for the most part, but I can figure that out later. More interested in team composition right now. They'll probably need some Miracle tickets to round out, but I think they might have some potential. My Winds are beyond hope, though, and my Thunders are probably only a bit better.

My Water SSRs are Ryu-oh, Ashera, Ea, and Saraswati. I feel like the latter is kinda useless when I have Ashera...does she have any place in my team? I'm only using her because she's an SSR. Right now my main party has Ryu-oh, Ea (formerly Belphegor), Ashera, and Atalanta, with Venus and Saraswati as subs. I just switched to Andromeda for my soul, only to find out I don't have any SSR water weapons she can use. But since Nike kinda sucks I figure she's my best Soul option. Does that sound right? And is it okay to only have her with an SR main weapon?

As for my Fires I have Mars, Acala, Ares, Beelzebub, and Uriel Awakened. Since I have Uriel, I dunno if Ares and Acala are worth using. And I figure Beelzebub is probably the worst SSR ever, so...yeah. My team is Uriel Awakened, Mars, Brynhildr, and Hephaestus, with Ares and Acala as subs. Does that sound sensible? Dunno who my Soul should be, but for the time being it's Mordred.

I should probably mention that Shingen's Light Lance is the only Soul Weapon I have. Period. I have enough Dark chalices for two copies of something, but all other elements can't even buy one yet. Didn't realize how important they could be until a month or two ago, and I've mostly just been grinding for the Lights.

Using EA instead of Saras....
I’m also a fire main so i would say Uriel AW, Ares AW, Acala AW, and Mars. In raid and debuff resist content run shingen with her MEX, in solo content that debuff work run Her with SS, that’s all debuff you need

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Using EA instead of Saras....
I’m also a fire main so i would say Uriel AW, Ares AW, Acala AW, and Mars. In raid and debuff resist content run shingen with her MEX, in solo content that debuff work run Her with SS, that’s all debuff you need

Am I wrong about Saras? She looks kinda inconsistent to me, and Ashera already provides a party-wide Water Atk bonus so I figured she looked kind of redundant, in the same way there's little point to having both Ea and Belphegor.
And my Ares and Acala are not Awakened. I have no eyes left, and I think I heard that their Awakens were on the weaker side of them. I also have Gaia, Brahma, and Ea as awakenables, but it'll be a long time before I get the eyes for anybody. Sol, Satan, Michael, and Uriel took everything I had.
What does MEX stand for? I assume SS is Sniper Shot.

Originally Posted by Argo

Am I wrong about Saras? She looks kinda inconsistent to me, and Ashera already provides a party-wide Water Atk bonus so I figured she looked kind of redundant, in the same way there's little point to having both Ea and Belphegor.
And my Ares and Acala are not Awakened. I have no eyes left, and I think I heard that their Awakens were on the weaker side of them. I also have Gaia, Brahma, and Ea as awakenables, but it'll be a long time before I get the eyes for anybody. Sol, Satan, Michael, and Uriel took everything I had.
What does MEX stand for? I assume SS is Sniper Shot.

Saras power is not in her water atk buff, it in 2 other skill. Her 2nd skill give 25 BG for 1 hime and herself, her 3rd skill when may look not impress(at least until they rebalance her) but if you combine with tiara set ( i hope you like to leach warag) make her and that hime a total of 91% combo rate. She will help your pathetic slow water team speed up from 8-9 turn burst cycle to 5-6 turn burst cycle ( can be faster if you have vohu to fill up a hole in your squad). CD on her skill is a little bit long but water is slow anyway.
MEX stand for Master EXtra ability. In this case i mean her 20% BG skill.
About your fire team. I think you just give up them and go with light because fire is a fucking whale element. Most of there core hime need AW, their UE FLB weapon come so fucking late, and their event weapon is mostly bad too. I think you should just stay with your light team, AW sol and mike, and throw that team at everything.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

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About your fire team. I think you just give up them and go with light because fire is a fucking whale element. Most of there core hime need AW, --

I wouldn't say that "Fire is a whale element." You can say that fantastic Fire Grids are for whales, yes, but overall, Fire isn't bad.

"Needing" AW isn't bad at all. Dragon Eyes shouldn't be a problem for anyone with a Union that finishes in like... top50 Union Events or something. Secondly, the strong Fire Hime are absolutely ridiculous in power levels. Only some Light Hime are on their level, and we're absolutely getting more of those in the future.

Originally Posted by Slashley

I wouldn't say that "Fire is a whale element." You can say that fantastic Fire Grids are for whales, yes, but overall, Fire isn't bad.

"Needing" AW isn't bad at all. Dragon Eyes shouldn't be a problem for anyone with a Union that finishes in like... top50 Union Events or something. Secondly, the strong Fire Hime are absolutely ridiculous in power levels. Only some Light Hime are on their level, and we're absolutely getting more of those in the future.

All element already have 3 FLB UE weapon, ( some even have 5 like dark and thunder), when our fire main had to stay here and wait for 1 fuking more month to finally lay our hand in that. Not to mention have to wait another 9 fucking more month to recive the last 2. That is fuck up man. Fire do have power. But they can’t compare to light in term of survive. That’s all they have, power. So if you don’t have a amazing strong grid or 100% eido, you can’t kill them before they skill you. He said he is short on DE is i just think he is better focus on AW other hime instead of invest them on fire. He don’t have belial, and the game won’t allow f2p fire main to have a good grid, especially new one

For a new player, isn't better that I have at least 3 FLB weapons to get in the near futur than if they are already all gone?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

-- and the game won’t allow f2p fire main to have a good grid, especially new one

That's true for literally any element, though. And not just now, but forever into the future as well.

Originally Posted by Argo

My Dark team can solo light Ults down to about a quarter of their health or less on autobattle. But my lights only got a dark ult down to about half when I was actually paying attention. Probably need Eros in the main party for that, I suppose.

I'm curious about my Waters and Fires too, if I could ask for advice. They're way behind on weapon upgrades compared to my lights and darks for the most part, but I can figure that out later. More interested in team composition right now. They'll probably need some Miracle tickets to round out, but I think they might have some potential. My Winds are beyond hope, though, and my Thunders are probably only a bit better.

My Water SSRs are Ryu-oh, Ashera, Ea, and Saraswati. I feel like the latter is kinda useless when I have Ashera...does she have any place in my team? I'm only using her because she's an SSR. Right now my main party has Ryu-oh, Ea (formerly Belphegor), Ashera, and Atalanta, with Venus and Saraswati as subs. I just switched to Andromeda for my soul, only to find out I don't have any SSR water weapons she can use. But since Nike kinda sucks I figure she's my best Soul option. Does that sound right? And is it okay to only have her with an SR main weapon?

As for my Fires I have Mars, Acala, Ares, Beelzebub, and Uriel Awakened. Since I have Uriel, I dunno if Ares and Acala are worth using. And I figure Beelzebub is probably the worst SSR ever, so...yeah. My team is Uriel Awakened, Mars, Brynhildr, and Hephaestus, with Ares and Acala as subs. Does that sound sensible? Dunno who my Soul should be, but for the time being it's Mordred.

I should probably mention that Shingen's Light Lance is the only Soul Weapon I have. Period. I have enough Dark chalices for two copies of something, but all other elements can't even buy one yet. Didn't realize how important they could be until a month or two ago, and I've mostly just been grinding for the Lights.

Not a fair comparison on Light and Dark Ultimates; the Light one starts slow and then ramps up after rage, while the Dark one is one of the hardest ones without Sol Awakened on the team. You'll always have a harder time with the Dark Ultimate. Your Light team has a higher growth potential than the Dark team (and will really shine once you add either Lugh or Take or Athena or heck anything released this year...).

I'd focus on one team to max weapon grid first and then work from there. You should start with the Light grid than move to Dark (which will help you farm for Light accessories etc.) and then look at other elements. The only deviation you might have is to push skill upgrades into your Fire grid in the short term because the next Tower is Wind and you'll be using the Fire Himes for that event.

Your Fire and Water Himes can work (Asherah and Saras are good together with Saras enough healing to keep a water team going). I'd add Atalanta, Ryu-Oh, and use Ambush for 50% down. If you use Hercules and her axe you can switch the EX skill for something else.

You Fire Hime are great and any combos with Uriel, Mars, and Acala should do fine. I don't have as much experience here as I don't play Fire so I'm a bit inexperienced.

I believe you mostly suffer from 'griditis'; all of your weapon grids are very low in skill level and, as such, you need to put in healing himes to keep going through content. I'd focus on the grids (Light and Fire for now) as the single most important thing to raise over the next month.


Dejnov.

So I now have enough MP to put 20 points into boosts for Shingen. Following the guide, I've pumped 6 pts into the 2 Burst Damage Up, 1 point into Atk(+++), and 6 pts into Combo Rate ups. That leaves me 7 pts and I'm not sure what to best use it for?

If it helps, here's the team setups I currently use w/ Shingen. My grids are not fully built yet (on average, 3-4 SSR weaps w/ Skill levels ranged from 5-15 + SR w/ Element Assault skills)

Wind: Cybele U, Cu Chulain, Azazel, Gaia (AW) / Other SSRs: Titania [AW], Arianrod, Nephthys [Wind]
Thunder: Tyr, Jupiter, Raiko, Athena / Other SSRs: Baal U,
Light: Michael, Frey, Sol [AW], Eros / Other SSRs: Atum, Metatron
Dark: Satan [AW], Hades, Osiris, Amaterasu [Dark] / Other SSRs: Amon U, Pluto, Berith