Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Quarters

But why put my healer in reserve? If I keep Gaia alongside Hastur, and Azazel, the only slot left is Set. I assume you don't mean to swap Azazel for CybeleU but instead want both of them out there dealing the hurt. Hastur's ATKup and DEFdown are too helpful to bench. Joan's Orlean Call is very helpful, though it does compete with Gaia's attack+partyregen skill and Azazel's selfregen+energydrain. When paying attention and not autobattling, I can keep regen up at all times, is that enough to put Set in reserve?

Set's healing on average is 250 per turn(1500/6)
Gaia awakened has a heal in the form of a regen that has an average heal of 171per turn(400*3/7). But Gaia also has a damage cut, along with a Cover+Nullify skill which means overdrives do 0 damage. The damage cut and damage negation over the same period of time would "block" way more than the extra 79 heal per turn per hime from Set.

Only reason you'd prioritize Set over Gaia is for affliction resist AND affliction cleanse which would be dependent on content.

quick question. do fire rag supposed to be able to use its overdrive 2 times in a row?

Originally Posted by kyc992

Set's healing on average is 250 per turn(1500/6)
Gaia awakened has a heal in the form of a regen that has an average heal of 171per turn(400*3/7). But Gaia also has a damage cut, along with a Cover+Nullify skill which means overdrives do 0 damage. The damage cut and damage negation over the same period of time would "block" way more than the extra 79 heal per turn per hime from Set.

Only reason you'd prioritize Set over Gaia is for affliction resist AND affliction cleanse which would be dependent on content.

See this actually answers the question, and in a civilized manner, thank you. I'll try Set in the back, but as the first to come out over Isis. Joan, Gaia, and CybeleU up front with Hastur and Azazel in back.

Originally Posted by Quarters

See this actually answers the question, and in a civilized manner, thank you. I'll try Set in the back, but as the first to come out over Isis. Joan, Gaia, and CybeleU up front with Hastur and Azazel in back.

Until Azazel AW! then she can replace Set
edit:nevermind missread:P

Originally Posted by Quarters

See this actually answers the question, and in a civilized manner, thank you. I'll try Set in the back, but as the first to come out over Isis. Joan, Gaia, and CybeleU up front with Hastur and Azazel in back.

First follow kyc992's advice and get your assault skills in your weapon grid up. That'll help a lot. If you're doing 50% more damage, you might not feel the need to rely on healing as much as you currently are. Gaia's got a self heal, Azazel has energy drain and cybele also has a self heal, not to mention Joan's regen. Set is overkill and takes the place of a strong striker. Gaia's damage cut and block are stronger party 'heals' than Set's though they do this through damage avoidance/mitigation (a priori not after damage done). The only one without any self heal is Hastur. For now you can live with potentially her going down.


Dejnov.

Originally Posted by Dejnov

First follow kyc992's advice and get your assault skills in your weapon grid up. That'll help a lot. If you're doing 50% more damage, you might not feel the need to rely on healing as much as you currently are. Gaia's got a self heal, Azazel has energy drain and cybele also has a self heal, not to mention Joan's regen. Set is overkill and takes the place of a strong striker. Gaia's damage cut and block are stronger party 'heals' than Set's though they do this through damage avoidance/mitigation (a priori not after damage done). The only one without any self heal is Hastur. For now you can live with potentially her going down.


Dejnov.

It's usually either her or Azazel... But Gaia doesn't have self heal she has party regen

Originally Posted by Quarters

It's usually either her or Azazel... But Gaia doesn't have self heal she has party regen

Gaia's party regen is from Awakening and lvl 75, but prior to that it's a self heal.

Also forgot to mention, the regen from Gaia does not stack with Joan's. The damage cut however does. You can effectively rotate regen for better turn coverage. Also you can effectively block overdrives by using Gaia's other Earth+ to negate it once, then use bothh Gaia's Genesis and Joan's Voice of the Gods for an 80% damage cut. With 40% AB attack down frames and 80% damage cut, you effectively cut boss's damage down to 12%. Not counting boss's regular attacks, the party regen you have should be more than enough for you to tackle bosses for a decent amount of time. But the regular attacks will still eventually wear you down, as explained by Shieun's "This game is designed in a way that the boss will eventually outdamage your healing cooldown or the time limit is going to mess you up".

Originally Posted by kyc992

Gaia's party regen is from Awakening and lvl 75, but prior to that it's a self heal.

Also forgot to mention, the regen from Gaia does not stack with Joan's. The damage cut however does. You can effectively rotate regen for better turn coverage. Also you can effectively block overdrives by using Gaia's other Earth+ to negate it once, then use bothh Gaia's Genesis and Joan's Voice of the Gods for an 80% damage cut. With 40% AB attack down frames and 80% damage cut, you effectively cut boss's damage down to 12%. Not counting boss's regular attacks, the party regen you have should be more than enough for you to tackle bosses for a decent amount of time. But the regular attacks will still eventually wear you down, as explained by Shieun's "This game is designed in a way that the boss will eventually outdamage your healing cooldown or the time limit is going to mess you up".

Yes...And we're talking about my party...which has Gaia Awakened Level 80...

As for the regen not stacking, that is also known. As mentioned above, if I'm paying attention instead of autobattling, I can keep regen on the party for (think it was) 9 turns, one turn without, and then another 6 turns. I might be off by a turn depending on if the cooldown starts the turn you use it.

But yes, I've swapped Set for CybeleU, once the maintenance is over, I'll check my SRs for assault. I'll then try them on a Thunder Ultimate and report back.

Does raid ticket carry over to next raid?
I just over lost all my ticket...

Just got Fire Amon in 3 attempts, so I assume I'd want to run Amon, Ares, Dakki and Mars, replacing Dakki depending on content?
Also does anybody know how her passive works? Does it convert Dark ATK into Fire ATK only for her self or whole party, and does it work on Dark eidolon passives as well?