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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Someone in my clan said he had lower drops of stars when using Anzu + Vlad. I also noticed that using 2 drop eids doesn't seem to work well, but didn't notice problems with a specific eid. Another in my clan had just done 15 runs with Vlad as main and drop eid friend, and got none. Can anyone confirm that there is some kind of bug using vlad/2 drop eids, and possibly explain how it works? Thanks.
    Item drop eidos and the snatch ability increase the amount of bronze and silver chests only. Stars are in gold chests, so their drop rate won't increase. The eidos are better suited for lower level dailies and other quests where the sought items are in bronze and silver chests.

    During advent events, only N, bronze and silver mats will increase. I've tested using a MLB anzu with a support sleipnir, anzu or vlad, D'Art with snatch 2nd and Mammon for 3 events, casting snatch on every enemy in rounds 1 and 2, and using all 3 snatches twice on the boss. In the end, the increase was 5-7%. It saves a few battles when the rewards you want require a majority of non-gold mats. Reduced elemental boost from the eidos and reducing damage in order to cast snatch often offsets time saving, so It's best to use them in a way that doesn't slow you down too much.
    Last edited by Yukichi; 05-07-2019 at 07:10 AM.

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    Eid bug

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukichi View Post
    Item drop eidos and the snatch ability increase the amount of bronze and silver chests only. Stars are in gold chests, so their drop rate won't increase. The eidos are better suited for lower level dailies and other quests where the sought items are in bronze and silver chests.

    During advent events, only N, bronze and silver mats will increase. I've tested using a MLB anzu with a support sleipnir, anzu or vlad, D'Art with snatch 2nd and Mammon for 3 events, casting snatch on every enemy in rounds 1 and 2, and using all 3 snatches twice on the boss. In the end, the increase was 5-7%. It saves a few battles when the rewards you want require a majority of non-gold mats. Reduced elemental boost from the eidos and reducing damage in order to cast snatch often offsets time saving, so It's best to use them in a way that doesn't slow you down too much.
    Granted 15 runs isn't much, but couple that with the fact that I used double drop eid during last raid event and got 0 SSR drops, along with my other union member who has tested it and noticed a difference, and I think we may be onto something, like maybe there is a cap on the number of chest drops, and too much item fin will push you to the cap with bronze and silver chests, not allowing the golds to drop.

    How about phantoms? They drop from the pearly chest, right? Are they effected by item find?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Granted 15 runs isn't much, but couple that with the fact that I used double drop eid during last raid event and got 0 SSR drops, --
    Nobody gets SSR drops from raid events. That's just normal. They happen, but they're EXTREMELY rare.

    Anyway, I run a bit below 22% Item Drop+ (I think it's like 20% atm, will 22% once two more drop for Dark) and double Drop, and I'm pretty much guaranteed 4 golds per fight. No idea what normally drops though, since this has been my farming setup for ages now. I have no idea what normal is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    I'm pretty much guaranteed 4 golds per fight. No idea what normally drops though, since this has been my farming setup for ages now. I have no idea what normal is.
    Not sure if this data is obsolete, but one of the tabs of Sanahtlig's Kamihime Project Toolbox has advent drops data, and he has 3.71 gold chests per run on average for ultimate, so if you consistently get 4 or more, that is definitely above average. I only track how many SSR mats I get, not the gold chests themselves, and for the last advent, I got a little above 2 per run with no drop rates up whatsoever, which is roughly consistent with Sanahtlig's 2.56, so I think the data is still good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Not sure if this data is obsolete, but one of the tabs of Sanahtlig's Kamihime Project Toolbox has advent drops data, and he has 3.71 gold chests per run on average for ultimate, so if you consistently get 4 or more, that is definitely above average. I only track how many SSR mats I get, not the gold chests themselves, and for the last advent, I got a little above 2 per run with no drop rates up whatsoever, which is roughly consistent with Sanahtlig's 2.56, so I think the data is still good.
    Yeah, I don't bother counting the SSR mats. I just farm until I don't need to farm any more. No idea how many of those are actual mats and how much are SR fodder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superbia View Post
    When does shiva get her awakening?
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    too soon for u think about that
    Right now awakening order would be

    Marduk > Raphael > Cu Chulainn > Shiva

    Need someone confirm date tho
    Shiva should gain her awakening in August if it matches the jp side

    Quote Originally Posted by nut View Post
    Not sure if this is correct but in this video he state that Item drop% also increase the gold chest rate in sp quest and have a good amount of sample.

    Also the snatch icoin is platium chest so is will be quite sarcastic if it only increase the amount of bronze and silver chests. Maybe the amount of gold chest is already too lower than the other 2 so it'll be hardly to noticed.
    The stats show tier 3 and tier 4 stones but omit tier 3 runes and fangs which are also contained in gold chests. They would thus compare the amount of stones obtained from gold chests rather than the total amount of gold chests.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Yeah, I don't bother counting the SSR mats. I just farm until I don't need to farm any more. No idea how many of those are actual mats and how much are SR fodder.
    Based on 400 to 500 battles from 5 advents, the current advent material drop rate is 6.00 N mats, 9.50 bronze mats, 4.25 silver mats and 2.50 gold mats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukichi View Post
    The stats show tier 3 and tier 4 stones but omit tier 3 runes and fangs which are also contained in gold chests. They would thus compare the amount of stones obtained from gold chests rather than the total amount of gold chests.
    But are you sure that the item drop rate % only increase the drop chance of silver and bronze chests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukichi View Post
    Item drop eidos and the snatch ability increase the amount of bronze and silver chests only. Stars are in gold chests, so their drop rate won't increase. The eidos are better suited for lower level dailies and other quests where the sought items are in bronze and silver chests.

    During advent events, only N, bronze and silver mats will increase. I've tested using a MLB anzu with a support sleipnir, anzu or vlad, D'Art with snatch 2nd and Mammon for 3 events, casting snatch on every enemy in rounds 1 and 2, and using all 3 snatches twice on the boss. In the end, the increase was 5-7%. It saves a few battles when the rewards you want require a majority of non-gold mats. Reduced elemental boost from the eidos and reducing damage in order to cast snatch often offsets time saving, so It's best to use them in a way that doesn't slow you down too much.
    Not sure if this is correct but in this video he state that Item drop% also increase the gold chest rate in sp quest and have a good amount of sample.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQorzj__DAk
    Also the snatch icoin is platium chest so is will be quite sarcastic if it only increase the amount of bronze and silver chests. Maybe the amount of gold chest is already too lower than the other 2 so it'll be hardly to noticed.

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