Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

My main team is wind and I will able to awaken one of my kamihimr this week. Not sure to awaken Gaia or Amon, any advice?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

My main team is wind and I will able to awaken one of my kamihimr this week. Not sure to awaken Gaia or Amon, any advice?

I don't feel very qualified to give out advice, but I'd say that since Amon cannot be awakened you'd probably want to go with Gaia.

What does Special attack do???

I made a 3 element team with a useless Eidolon that did 2.5-2.7k dmg on average

Then I used diabolos with 100% special attack bonus and the dmg numbers didn't change??? Shouldn't it double??

Compare to changing Eidolon to Python and my dmg numbers went up to ~3.4k for the dark kamihimes

Also what are the specifics of "commensurate"?? I know it's proportional but does anyone have the exact math on it???

Originally Posted by iamnoob

What does Special attack do???

I made a 3 element team with a useless Eidolon that did 2.5-2.7k dmg on average

Then I used diabolos with 100% special attack bonus and the dmg numbers didn't change??? Shouldn't it double??

Compare to changing Eidolon to Python and my dmg numbers went up to ~3.4k for the dark kamihimes

Also what are the specifics of "commensurate"?? I know it's proportional but does anyone have the exact math on it???

This youtube vid explains a lot about diabolos in the pinned comment:

/watch?v=lQ_K9x-6zNc

just, only use her if you've pulled her but don't have a 100% eidolon of your own. you also shouldn't use her in longer fights cause you're still using 2 off element characters

she's just a means to higher damage for those without a 100% eidolon

Ok got it.

Btw is there any way to "decraft" items? like use higher level items and break them into lower level items?

E.g Holy star of light ---> holy crystal of light?

I have 0 holy crystals and have almost 20 stars....

Originally Posted by iamnoob

What does Special attack do???

I made a 3 element team with a useless Eidolon that did 2.5-2.7k dmg on average

Then I used diabolos with 100% special attack bonus and the dmg numbers didn't change??? Shouldn't it double??

Compare to changing Eidolon to Python and my dmg numbers went up to ~3.4k for the dark kamihimes

Also what are the specifics of "commensurate"?? I know it's proportional but does anyone have the exact math on it???

Special Atk is its own modifier, just like Character/Assault is and Elemental is. If you have a proper Grid for Assault modifier, you should notice a significant increase from using SSR Diabolos. If you don't have much of a Grid yet, then the difference between 90% Character and 100% Special isn't much.

SSR Diabolos is really tough to make work though, since you can't give proper Assault/Elemental to your two off-elemental characters... not to mention what happens when somebody on your team dies. It is possible to make work, but unless you know exactly what you're doing, I'd recommend not even trying.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This youtube vid explains a lot about diabolos in the pinned comment:

/watch?v=lQ_K9x-6zNc

I didn't watch that, but wasn't that MagicSpice's YouTube channel? So I wouldn't trust that information for longer than what I can throw it.

Also wtf is with the event difficulty spike from standard to expert. I can auto no ability win standard but expert 1 hit KOs my entire party....

Originally Posted by iamnoob

Also wtf is with the event difficulty spike from standard to expert. I can auto no ability win standard but expert 1 hit KOs my entire party....

That happens for pretty much everything, not just advent events actually. I think they calibrate the difficulties according to you upgrading your himes, weapons and eidolons simultaneously. Because raw stats, abilities and assault/elemental are all multiplicative - the difficulty spikes non-linearly as well.

AB-ing (no ability) is hard for experts and above, because abilities can make a huge difference in your dmg output, and the game is calibrated accordingly. Note that AAB (with ability) can do really stupid things like healing when everyone is at full health and cast ability dmg up AFTER casting all the abilities etc. My general rule of thumb is that if I can manually beat a certain level comfortably (no one dies except for freak accidents), then I can AAB one level BELOW with the same team. In your case, see if you can manually beat ultimate, if so, then try expert on AAB. Being able to AB on standard is not a good indicator that you can AAB on expert.

The current Python event actually makes it really hard to AAB for low damage and/or low hp teams because of how her triggers work - you need to cast all your debuffs after the nullifies are up but before the first OD to avoid party wipe. I play multiple accounts ranging from rank 30-80+, and while my 80+ account can AAB anything including ragnarok Python because she dies in 2-3 turns, my lower-ranked accounts can not AAB expert even though I can manually clear ultimate with them. What I did was manually clear the trash mobs, hit Python once so her nullifies are up, then AAB after that with all the debuffs ready to fire. When all her nullifies are down, she is actually a below average boss.

Python is almost over though. You will see similar difficulty spikes in the other events. However, since the next one is a raid, if you aren't aiming for MVP and stuff, you can AAB everything including rag and just let someone else clear the battle for you.

Curious on what some people do with SSR event weapons. Do most use extra copies to limit break or do most save copies and limit break with bricks?