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  1. #10381
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Yikes. My fault, I meant 2 SSR weapons, forgot to check for typo. Sol is my only light SSR.

    My SSRs are: Uriel (fire), Asherah (water), Isis (wind), Sol (light), Satan (dark), and Thor (electric)

    And yeah, SSRs really are luck. Gacha games are the trend at my college's anime club and people rage from bad luck all the time, especially from Love Live and Granblue Fantasy.
    Just a thought, and others please jump in if you think this is bad advice, but if you still have 1 SSR of everything by September, you might try to run a dark/fire/other rainbow grid until you get better luck. Phantom UE will give you Lilim Avaritia that makes rainbow teams slightly less bad than usual.

    I would run Uriel, Satan, 1 fire/dark SR, Isis, sub Sol and Thor. Try to get Isis to lvl 75+ so her vigor buff becomes 20%. For weapons, use your best dark and fire weapons. Basic idea is use dark and fire himes for firepower, get Isis' vigor buff up, get her killed, Sol comes on and heal (Isis' vigor is active for 5T) and when Sol dies, too, hail mary paralysis from Thor if you need it. If Thor dies, too, it's game over though, 'cos Lilim's buffs will not work without 3 elements.

    Alternative battle plan if you're sure Isis will get killed before you're ready to burst is sub Asherah then Sol - use Asherah's abilities to get you to FB. You can also switch out Sol for Thor as sub if you're a gambler.

    Haven't ran a full analysis, but if you can deal most of your dmg in the first 5T when Isis' vigor buff is up, I think this is a viable build. There's no extra work needed 'cos it's using your existing fire and dark weapons, so no sunk costs from disbanding this team as soon as gacha gives you more clarity on it wants you to main. Also, this is just a plan B, you do not need to modify how you build out your dark or fire team at all, since the rainbow plan doesn't really require you to choose right now. Hopefully you won't need to use it though.

    EDIT: not sure if you have any gacha eidolons, but if you happen to have Echidna, you can even try this rainbow team now.
    Last edited by dreamlitz; 07-12-2019 at 02:33 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
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    As for my SSR, by some stroke of luck (or not?) I have one SSR for each element, most of which can be awakened: Uriel, Satan, Sol, Thor, and Isis. I'm not sure which one I should awaken, --
    Why not all of them? Do you not play in Union events?

    If you can get your ass into one of the top15 or even top30 Unions (that's 450/900 players out of the Nutaku Kamihime ~1000 playerbase), you'll be getting lots of Shards. And if you are interested in the Union grind, then Phantom Elemental Lord Thor is by far the most valuable Hime in the entire game. Hell, if you're willing to manual Thor for 8-16 hours for one day per Union event, you can easily find yourself in any of the top5 Unions I'd imagine (not that we currently have a set top5).

    If that's not appealing to you, then either reroll into a 100% Eidolon or Satan.
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  3. #10383
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    In terms of attack, my fire team is pretty up there, which makes Uriel an okay choice, but she's not a super-top-tier SSR.
    I dont consider myself a fire main/lords but i do have a functional fire grid. Uriel awakened can hit 2m burst by herself. I’m not sure on your definition of a super top tier SSRs, but uriel AW isnt a hime you should overlook when you dont have that much choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    In terms of attack, my fire team is pretty up there, which makes Uriel an okay choice, but she's not a super-top-tier SSR.
    interesting... opinion

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    Uriel is one of my few non light/dark kamis and I ran a shits and giggles fire team with her. She bursts in like 3 turns and it does the kind of damage my dark team needs full def break/ dark res and atk buffs to hit.
    (I actually keep her in the back of my dark team for yolo finishes if I'm gonna die heh)

    Top tier loli man.

  6. #10386
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shieun View Post
    Uriel awakened can hit 2m burst by herself. I’m not sure on your definition of a super top tier SSRs, but uriel AW isnt a hime you should overlook when you dont have that much choice.
    Quote Originally Posted by AutoCrimson View Post
    interesting... opinion
    Based on people's reactions, I will take back my words on Uriel not being top-tier. In my defense, I am a newbie compared to veterans, and while skimming through past threads, I got the wrong impression that she pales in comparison to SSRs that are hyped up a lot more, such as Gaia, Sol, and Amaterasu. I do very much enjoy having her, and I agree that her burst damage is very impressive, plus with burst-oriented teams + Arthur she is a godsend

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    they are diff element, xcept for Ama
    and Ama plays diff purpose

    tbh the only hime i can compare Uriel with is AW Metatron. still, my Meta never hit rumored 2kk+ burst (ye i know, my grid suck)

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    deadass magicspice new vid saying he gonna replace one of his dark defender weps for plutos absolute trash wep w/ defender + rush lmaoooo this dude
    selling brand new account with L/E SSR and full plus more fire team.

    has at least 1 SSR of each element.

    rank 41 .
    pm me teehee xox

  9. #10389
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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoCrimson View Post
    they are diff element, xcept for Ama
    and Ama plays diff purpose

    tbh the only hime i can compare Uriel with is AW Metatron. still, my Meta never hit rumored 2kk+ burst (ye i know, my grid suck)
    Metatron AW actually hits A LOT harder if you let her set it up fully (not to mention, can burst 3x in a row), but unfortunately, that setting up makes her a lot less flexible than Uriel, who is just a constant speed freak/burst machine. For this reason, even Metatron isn't really comparable. The only time Uriel ever falls off the top-tier list is if you're running a space whale fire ascalon grid and everyone is bursting for 2m anyways, even then though, she's still a really fast lead, abetted, a little too much micromanaging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    while skimming through past threads, I got the wrong impression that she pales in comparison to SSRs that are hyped up a lot more, such as Gaia, Sol, and Amaterasu.
    None of those are bad, well Ama seems to be falling out of favor in many quarters but still useful for newcomers imo. The meta is constantly changing due to AW and new himes coming out though. For example, a lot of old posts for light will recommend SSR Arty or LT for offense, but they are becoming obsolete due to Lugh and upcoming Iris; when Azazel gets her awakening a couple months from now, she'll go from unremarkable to top-tier wind SSR.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Metatron AW actually hits A LOT harder if you let her set it up fully (not to mention, can burst 3x in a row), but unfortunately, that setting up makes her a lot less flexible than Uriel, who is just a constant speed freak/burst machine. For this reason, even Metatron isn't really comparable.
    Yeah, these comparisons are always tricky imo, 'cos they do different things and are better/worse in different situations (and these are different elements, too.) Uriel is fast and can hit 2m burst dmg cap on her own without any special requirements and has consistent DPS, as such is quite beginner friendly. Lugh can actually rival/exceed Uriel in pure DPS, but needs to be manual and needs heal for prolonged encounter. Metatron is more a spike dmg machine, not a DPS machine and is unique due to her 4m burst dmg cap, but requires quite a bit of planning to make use of it. For pure speed, there're actually lots of himes of various elements that are as fast or faster than Uriel, and Metatron's average speed isn't that remarkable in a prolonged encounter actually.

    People often look at DPS or whatever gives you big numbers when you burst, but if you only focus on those, you'll miss out on a lot of other himes that can really add to the team. Extreme example is Mike AW - her own DPS sucks, but she makes your team burst so much more frequently that basically no other himes can rival her value in a typical light team.

    The only time Uriel ever falls off the top-tier list is if you're running a space whale fire ascalon grid and everyone is bursting for 2m anyways, even then though, she's still a really fast lead, abetted, a little too much micromanaging.
    Yes, another example of pitfall of just looking at DPS. Btw, it's not just space whales that have to worry dmg caps. UE grails make it much easier to hit burst dmg caps. Abilities have dmg caps, too, and it's pretty easy even for f2p to hit Hercules' full break 700k dmg cap for example. Even regular attacks have dmg caps, though most ppl dun have to worry about that one outside of Morgan builds.

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