Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

In terms of attack, my fire team is pretty up there, which makes Uriel an okay choice, but she's not a super-top-tier SSR.

interesting... opinion

Uriel is one of my few non light/dark kamis and I ran a shits and giggles fire team with her. She bursts in like 3 turns and it does the kind of damage my dark team needs full def break/ dark res and atk buffs to hit.
(I actually keep her in the back of my dark team for yolo finishes if I'm gonna die heh)

Top tier loli man.

Originally Posted by Shieun

Uriel awakened can hit 2m burst by herself. I’m not sure on your definition of a super top tier SSRs, but uriel AW isnt a hime you should overlook when you dont have that much choice.

Originally Posted by AutoCrimson

interesting... opinion

Based on people's reactions, I will take back my words on Uriel not being top-tier. In my defense, I am a newbie compared to veterans, and while skimming through past threads, I got the wrong impression that she pales in comparison to SSRs that are hyped up a lot more, such as Gaia, Sol, and Amaterasu. I do very much enjoy having her, and I agree that her burst damage is very impressive, plus with burst-oriented teams + Arthur she is a godsend

they are diff element, xcept for Ama
and Ama plays diff purpose

tbh the only hime i can compare Uriel with is AW Metatron. still, my Meta never hit rumored 2kk+ burst (ye i know, my grid suck)

deadass magicspice new vid saying he gonna replace one of his dark defender weps for plutos absolute trash wep w/ defender + rush lmaoooo this dude

Originally Posted by AutoCrimson

they are diff element, xcept for Ama
and Ama plays diff purpose

tbh the only hime i can compare Uriel with is AW Metatron. still, my Meta never hit rumored 2kk+ burst (ye i know, my grid suck)

Metatron AW actually hits A LOT harder if you let her set it up fully (not to mention, can burst 3x in a row), but unfortunately, that setting up makes her a lot less flexible than Uriel, who is just a constant speed freak/burst machine. For this reason, even Metatron isn't really comparable. The only time Uriel ever falls off the top-tier list is if you're running a space whale fire ascalon grid and everyone is bursting for 2m anyways, even then though, she's still a really fast lead, abetted, a little too much micromanaging.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

while skimming through past threads, I got the wrong impression that she pales in comparison to SSRs that are hyped up a lot more, such as Gaia, Sol, and Amaterasu.

None of those are bad, well Ama seems to be falling out of favor in many quarters but still useful for newcomers imo. The meta is constantly changing due to AW and new himes coming out though. For example, a lot of old posts for light will recommend SSR Arty or LT for offense, but they are becoming obsolete due to Lugh and upcoming Iris; when Azazel gets her awakening a couple months from now, she'll go from unremarkable to top-tier wind SSR.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Metatron AW actually hits A LOT harder if you let her set it up fully (not to mention, can burst 3x in a row), but unfortunately, that setting up makes her a lot less flexible than Uriel, who is just a constant speed freak/burst machine. For this reason, even Metatron isn't really comparable.

Yeah, these comparisons are always tricky imo, 'cos they do different things and are better/worse in different situations (and these are different elements, too.) Uriel is fast and can hit 2m burst dmg cap on her own without any special requirements and has consistent DPS, as such is quite beginner friendly. Lugh can actually rival/exceed Uriel in pure DPS, but needs to be manual and needs heal for prolonged encounter. Metatron is more a spike dmg machine, not a DPS machine and is unique due to her 4m burst dmg cap, but requires quite a bit of planning to make use of it. For pure speed, there're actually lots of himes of various elements that are as fast or faster than Uriel, and Metatron's average speed isn't that remarkable in a prolonged encounter actually.

People often look at DPS or whatever gives you big numbers when you burst, but if you only focus on those, you'll miss out on a lot of other himes that can really add to the team. Extreme example is Mike AW - her own DPS sucks, but she makes your team burst so much more frequently that basically no other himes can rival her value in a typical light team.

The only time Uriel ever falls off the top-tier list is if you're running a space whale fire ascalon grid and everyone is bursting for 2m anyways, even then though, she's still a really fast lead, abetted, a little too much micromanaging.

Yes, another example of pitfall of just looking at DPS. Btw, it's not just space whales that have to worry dmg caps. UE grails make it much easier to hit burst dmg caps. Abilities have dmg caps, too, and it's pretty easy even for f2p to hit Hercules' full break 700k dmg cap for example. Even regular attacks have dmg caps, though most ppl dun have to worry about that one outside of Morgan builds.

I main wind but my wind grind isn't particularly good. I only have 3 one star kamihime SSR weapons, the two recent wind UE weapons, and a 3 star 1 ori SSR wep. The rest of my grid is SR assault weapons and it's been working well until the current GO. Can't wanpan jack or go slow and steady, so i just gave up on getting 2 ori this time. The main issue I have is that I have 2 bricks and wondering what the best use of them is. I was thinking of bricking the 2 UE weps to FLB and seeing if that can allow me to beat jack. Other than that I was wondering what else I could use the bricks on since all my kamihime weps are one star atm.

Please and Thank you.