Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

they are diff element, xcept for Ama
and Ama plays diff purpose

tbh the only hime i can compare Uriel with is AW Metatron. still, my Meta never hit rumored 2kk+ burst (ye i know, my grid suck)

deadass magicspice new vid saying he gonna replace one of his dark defender weps for plutos absolute trash wep w/ defender + rush lmaoooo this dude

Originally Posted by AutoCrimson

they are diff element, xcept for Ama
and Ama plays diff purpose

tbh the only hime i can compare Uriel with is AW Metatron. still, my Meta never hit rumored 2kk+ burst (ye i know, my grid suck)

Metatron AW actually hits A LOT harder if you let her set it up fully (not to mention, can burst 3x in a row), but unfortunately, that setting up makes her a lot less flexible than Uriel, who is just a constant speed freak/burst machine. For this reason, even Metatron isn't really comparable. The only time Uriel ever falls off the top-tier list is if you're running a space whale fire ascalon grid and everyone is bursting for 2m anyways, even then though, she's still a really fast lead, abetted, a little too much micromanaging.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

while skimming through past threads, I got the wrong impression that she pales in comparison to SSRs that are hyped up a lot more, such as Gaia, Sol, and Amaterasu.

None of those are bad, well Ama seems to be falling out of favor in many quarters but still useful for newcomers imo. The meta is constantly changing due to AW and new himes coming out though. For example, a lot of old posts for light will recommend SSR Arty or LT for offense, but they are becoming obsolete due to Lugh and upcoming Iris; when Azazel gets her awakening a couple months from now, she'll go from unremarkable to top-tier wind SSR.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Metatron AW actually hits A LOT harder if you let her set it up fully (not to mention, can burst 3x in a row), but unfortunately, that setting up makes her a lot less flexible than Uriel, who is just a constant speed freak/burst machine. For this reason, even Metatron isn't really comparable.

Yeah, these comparisons are always tricky imo, 'cos they do different things and are better/worse in different situations (and these are different elements, too.) Uriel is fast and can hit 2m burst dmg cap on her own without any special requirements and has consistent DPS, as such is quite beginner friendly. Lugh can actually rival/exceed Uriel in pure DPS, but needs to be manual and needs heal for prolonged encounter. Metatron is more a spike dmg machine, not a DPS machine and is unique due to her 4m burst dmg cap, but requires quite a bit of planning to make use of it. For pure speed, there're actually lots of himes of various elements that are as fast or faster than Uriel, and Metatron's average speed isn't that remarkable in a prolonged encounter actually.

People often look at DPS or whatever gives you big numbers when you burst, but if you only focus on those, you'll miss out on a lot of other himes that can really add to the team. Extreme example is Mike AW - her own DPS sucks, but she makes your team burst so much more frequently that basically no other himes can rival her value in a typical light team.

The only time Uriel ever falls off the top-tier list is if you're running a space whale fire ascalon grid and everyone is bursting for 2m anyways, even then though, she's still a really fast lead, abetted, a little too much micromanaging.

Yes, another example of pitfall of just looking at DPS. Btw, it's not just space whales that have to worry dmg caps. UE grails make it much easier to hit burst dmg caps. Abilities have dmg caps, too, and it's pretty easy even for f2p to hit Hercules' full break 700k dmg cap for example. Even regular attacks have dmg caps, though most ppl dun have to worry about that one outside of Morgan builds.

I main wind but my wind grind isn't particularly good. I only have 3 one star kamihime SSR weapons, the two recent wind UE weapons, and a 3 star 1 ori SSR wep. The rest of my grid is SR assault weapons and it's been working well until the current GO. Can't wanpan jack or go slow and steady, so i just gave up on getting 2 ori this time. The main issue I have is that I have 2 bricks and wondering what the best use of them is. I was thinking of bricking the 2 UE weps to FLB and seeing if that can allow me to beat jack. Other than that I was wondering what else I could use the bricks on since all my kamihime weps are one star atm.

Please and Thank you.

Originally Posted by CajunTofu

I main wind but my wind grind isn't particularly good. I only have 3 one star kamihime SSR weapons, the two recent wind UE weapons, and a 3 star 1 ori SSR wep. The rest of my grid is SR assault weapons and it's been working well until the current GO. Can't wanpan jack or go slow and steady, so i just gave up on getting 2 ori this time. The main issue I have is that I have 2 bricks and wondering what the best use of them is. I was thinking of bricking the 2 UE weps to FLB and seeing if that can allow me to beat jack. Other than that I was wondering what else I could use the bricks on since all my kamihime weps are one star atm.

Please and Thank you.

The best recommendation for bricking is Kamihime Weapons especially ones that give a second (or third) skill on final limit break. The UE Weapons, while great, are lower on the list of things to brick. You'll get the best long term bang if you look at your Hime weapons and find one with 2 (or 3) skills that have assault to brick first.

P.S. Beating Jack and getting Ori is not a short term priority if you're not already a veteran. It's really expensive to FLB any weapon and you're better of raising the assault in all of your grids (for tower/dummy to earn bricks) before trying to specifically raise your best grid to beat GO off-element. Are your other grids at skill level 20 full assault? If not you should at least raise everything to sklvl 10 assault for your best weapons in all grids so that you can keep earning bricks through dummy and tower.


Dejnov.

Upcoming event 94... How useful will Iris be compared to the current light hime's now? If she isn't really on that much of a demand I'll spend my MJ's now seeing as nutaku wants us to pay for limited hime's now.

Rip ever getting xmas satan now :/

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Upcoming event 94... How useful will Iris be compared to the current light hime's now? If she isn't really on that much of a demand I'll spend my MJ's now seeing as nutaku wants us to pay for limited hime's now.

Rip ever getting xmas satan now :/

Iris is extremely strong, but you'll never get what you want with Jewels on Nutaku (not Iris nor X-Mas Satan), so up to you.