Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

how does crit chance work?
crit chance from stinger, kamihimes and souls skills have its own trigger?
if i have 3 stinger weapons with 10% chance, each weapon have 30% chance or only those 10%?
also, when a weapon crits, is it for all himes or each hime has to trigger the weapon?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

how does crit chance work?
crit chance from stinger, kamihimes and souls skills have its own trigger?
if i have 3 stinger weapons with 10% chance, each weapon have 30% chance or only those 10%?
also, when a weapon crits, is it for all himes or each hime has to trigger the weapon?

So Critical chance is its own frame for each Hime and each critical chance is a separate proc that adds the bonus damage to the same critical frame. In your example each Hime (and your Soul) will have three independent 10% chances for an additional 20% damage. Your soul (if you have the Crit rate ability) will also have it's own chance for an additional 10% damage. For any Hime (and Soul) you can have 1, 2 or all 3 weapon effects trigger for potentially 20%, 40%, or 60% additional damage. Since they are independent, you'll see less variability in damage the more sources you have, but there is always some variability.

For a single medium source of stinger at skill level 20, this will give you a 13% chance (base 3% + 0.5% per level) for 20% additional damage. This is equivalent to approximately an additional 2.6% (.13x.20) average damage over a large number of attacks. It is in its own frame so the more attack you have the more relative value you get out of it versus a standard assault bonus as you get a higher base assault. If you have +100% assault, this works out to about 5.2% additional average damage for that stinger class.

Lastly, please remember you need elemental advantage for crit chance to proc (This is the 'weak point!' text on the damage text for a hit).


Dejnov.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

how does crit chance work?
crit chance from stinger, kamihimes and souls skills have its own trigger?
if i have 3 stinger weapons with 10% chance, each weapon have 30% chance or only those 10%?
also, when a weapon crits, is it for all himes or each hime has to trigger the weapon?

Crit only works on-element (e.g. using fire against wind or light again dark etc.) Each stinger weapon procs separately, so in your example, you have 3 independent 10% chance to proc critical, each proc will add 20% dmg up to a maximum of 60%. My understanding is that they proc separately for each hime and each attack/red abilitiy. Note that critical is a separate multiplier, so that 60% would translate straight into an actual 60% increase in dmg (subject to usual dmg caps.)

My general advice is to avoid stinger weapons though - assault, pride and even vigor gives you much more predictable results, and gives you higher average dmg for both on- and off-element. Rush and avalanche also increases average dmg more than stinger for both on- and off-element assuming you have sizable amount of dmg coming from normal attacks. DATA also helps you build burst. Basically, only use stinger if you have no other options to boost your dmg.

I'm not sure whether hime crit skills have any interaction with stinger weapons. I think it's a separate proc, but never tried to confirm it. Hime skills are generally much better than stinger weapons 'cos quite a few of them have high chance or even guaranteed.

Elemental Crit was a mistake. You can't make me think otherwise.

Originally Posted by Laventale

Elemental Crit was a mistake. You can't make me think otherwise.

What? Whatever do you mean? Please elaborate?



Dejnov.