Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Doing something that may or may not be too bright, so advice...
Since my wind kamis (and by extension wind grid) are pretty much non existent, I wasn't farming this event for the weapons/idol anyway and went straight for all the other stuff I needed (grimoires, sp, jewels etc). Have a good bit of excess now and decided to grab as many weps as possible for ssr slvl fodder for the grids I actually use. Good idea or no?
Been struggling to get ssr skill levels past 11, idk where ro get more of those grail things.

Get a decent union and get ranked in UE. If you have trouble past SL 11, man you're not gonna like the FLB weapons and their leveling of SL from 20 to 30.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I was wondering whether a lvl 50 on-element fully levelled assault weapon would help the team more, or an off-element lvl 125 weapon would do the team more good?

I've made a damage calc for this.

As Kitty said, it's pretty much guaranteed that on-element is better.

Originally Posted by Nik

Doing something that may or may not be too bright, so advice...
Since my wind kamis (and by extension wind grid) are pretty much non existent, I wasn't farming this event for the weapons/idol anyway and went straight for all the other stuff I needed (grimoires, sp, jewels etc). Have a good bit of excess now and decided to grab as many weps as possible for ssr slvl fodder for the grids I actually use. Good idea or no?

You NEED to get Garuda Hammer MLB, and leave yourself with enough mats to FLB it later (some Silver and Gold mats). That is BY FAR the most important thing in this event (and getting MLB Garuda if you don't have full SSR MLB Eidolon Grid yet).

But in general, the more you farm, the better for you.

Originally Posted by Nik

Been struggling to get ssr skill levels past 11, idk where ro get more of those grail things.

Why do you need Grails...?

Are you aware that SR weapons are 35 points each, per skill level? In other words, you feed a R to SR weapon, and it's worth 70 points. Then you feed it two Rs, and it is worth 105 points. Then you feed it three weapons, and it is worth 140 points.
SSRs require 20 points per slvl, so slvl 11*20 = 220 points. That's one SR4 and 8 Rs (for a total of 14 Rs and 1 SR).

You can get plenty of fodder for SR weapons by farming Standard and Expert Disaster Raids.

Originally Posted by Slashley

I've made a damage calc for this.

>As Kitty said, it's pretty much guaranteed that on-element is better.<

>You NEED to get Garuda Hammer MLB, and leave yourself with enough mats to FLB it later (some Silver and Gold mats).<

>Are you aware that SR weapons are 35 points each, per skill level? In other words, you feed a R to SR weapon, and it's worth 70 points. Then you feed it two Rs, and it is worth 105 points. Then you feed it three weapons, and it is worth 140 points.<

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Ok... I feel like point 1 and 2 are contradictory here...if an on element lv 50 assault weapon > an mlb off grid weapon, and again my wind grid/kamis are non-existent, why do I need the hammer?

Point 3, are you saying the more skill levels an sr weapon has the more its value when feeding it to an ssr?
Edit: tested point 3...fucking could have finished so many ssr levels by now ffs. Ty m8.

Originally Posted by Nik

Ok... I feel like point 1 and 2 are contradictory here...if an on element lv 50 assault weapon > an mlb off grid weapon, and again my wind grid/kamis are non-existent, why do I need the hammer?

Because EVENTUALLY, you'll also want an on-element Grid for Wind. It might not be today, it might not be next month, but it will happen.

And when it does, that FLB Garuda Deva is amongst the best weapons to have. So, MLB it for the future. You can FLB it when the time comes to level it up. Again, remember to leave yourself with Silver (45) and Gold (25) drops to FLB it!

Originally Posted by Nik

Point 3, are you saying the more skill levels an sr weapon has the more its value when feeding it to an ssr? E.g if slvl 1 gives 10% chance then slvl 2 boosts it to a 15% chance?

Yes, more slvl = more points. If slvl1 SR gives 10% chance then slvl2 gives 20% chance. And slvl3 gives 30% and slvl4 gives 40%.

ALWAYS use SRs at slvl2, at least. That way you've spent 45 points for 70 points.
Slvl3 is 90 points spent for 105 points, and slvl4 is 135 points spent for 140 points. These two are optional, but still worth it when trying to speed up your Grids.

I've noticed that a lot of people, if not everyone, seems to be maining Light. Is there a reason for this? Sure, you could argue elemental advantage, but Dark is exactly the same, yet I don't see many people using Dark.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I've noticed that a lot of people, if not everyone, seems to be maining Light. Is there a reason for this? Sure, you could argue elemental advantage, but Dark is exactly the same, yet I don't see many people using Dark.

Kamihime. Light has many, many, MANY absolutely INSANE SSRs. Michael AW, Tish, Lugh and the upcoming Iris are the most powerful ones. But all Light SSRs are either really fucking good or are going to be buffed to be really fucking good.

On a scale of 1-10, Light SSRs rank at about 15. Maybe 16. Meanwhile, Dark is around 6. Yeah, there is your reason. The other elements are about 8-9.

Does anyone have like a list of the optimal SSR teams? I know there’s a list of them in sanahtlg’s guide but it’s rather outdated; e.g. LT, Sol, and SSArty are no longer core in endgame light teams.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Kamihime. Light has many, many, MANY absolutely INSANE SSRs. Michael AW, Tish, Lugh and the upcoming Iris are the most powerful ones. But all Light SSRs are either really fucking good or are going to be buffed to be really fucking good.

On a scale of 1-10, Light SSRs rank at about 15. Maybe 16. Meanwhile, Dark is around 6. Yeah, there is your reason. The other elements are about 8-9.

So let’s see...

Wind

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Cu AW: TA galore + stackable 10% special atk up per TA. Can easily hit 350k normal atk cap and 2m burst cap with a decent enough grid AND has pursuit to push normal atk damage even further. Nah she kinda sucks.

Azzy AW: oh I dunno, everyone’s a Herc.
Hell, some of her effects are blatantly better than Herc’s. 50% atk and def buff, oh and 30% DA 20% TA that can give everyone GDATA if tiara set + 4-9% DATA from acc effects depending on AW or not... A 30% reflect with a 500HP regen and a 300 per hit life drain... all the skills are 5t up time so you’re looking at 4k HP regen in the worst case scenario without any ascension. Meh. Oh and...

Aether: GDATA on Aether. That’s pretty low rated yeah.

Gaia: I wonder what the 2 turns where Azzy doesn’t have reflect can be covered with. Yeah w/e

Thunder

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TPhro Marduk: you know, fortress and barrier is stackable + vigor doesn’t really matter. 100BG +30 enthusiasm anyone?

Dian: 3 heal skills that refresh every burst. Yeah doesn’t compare to Soru.

Raiko AW: 2t 30% dmg cut 20% thunder res, 6t cd but cuts 2t off cd every time she bursts. Yeaaaaah too slow.

Water

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Cthulhu AW: insanity with approximately 50% stick rate on rags after burst. Randomly completely drains the boss orb gauge + charm + DATA on insane sticks... she’s not better than Raphy AW ain’t she?

Februus: barrier that also acts as a life drain, guaranteed orb eat every 4 turns. Nah.

Pussy AW: 35% fire res 4T up time. Yikes that’s not long.

Shiva: 1m nuke in 1 abi every 5T, atk water atk crit up and also has 20BG. Weak...

Pluto: Ice legos give DATA on STACKABLE frame, 30% def break, and gives decent refresh on legos if you burst fast enough. Or Medea it. Blargh.

Fire

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Frey: 30% fire res down. 1.65x dmg with burst and abi up on warrior modo, 25 BG per hit on lance modo. Yeah not really OP.

Everything else fire but that’s too whale mang

Yeah...

They... aren’t really that goo-

Originally Posted by Slashley

And when it does, that FLB Garuda Deva is amongst the best weapons to have. So, MLB it for the future. You can FLB it when the time comes to level it up. Again, remember to leave yourself with Silver (45) and Gold (25) drops to FLB it!

Not to derail the element comparison discussion, as it is very interesting, but since the FLB for this hammer doesn't currently exist, does that mean it will be introduced without occasion to farm materials again?