Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Nik

For the SR mtix, thinking to get something that can potentially speed up my dark team...looking around options are either beelzebub (2 turn rampage, DA 20% and 3 turn atk up) or andhaka (6 turn combo atk + ??%, thanks to her reset skill).

Any professional opinion?

If you want speed, Paimon is the one you want. She has team-wide 10 BG on a 6T CD, which is pretty good for an SR. She also has team-wide stacking burst dmg buffs.

I have no idea whether she fits well with the rest of your team though. If your team is still slow even with Paimon, you might be better off just focusing on buffing.

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

If you want speed, Paimon is the one you want. She has team-wide 10 BG on a 6T CD, which is pretty good for an SR. She also has team-wide stacking burst dmg buffs.

I have no idea whether she fits well with the rest of your team though. If your team is still slow even with Paimon, you might be better off just focusing on buffing.

I'd looked at her too but my team has osiris and is still too slow to get anything out of burst dmg buffs. Besides herc and pluto, I almost never get DATA out of the rest.

Originally Posted by Nik

I'd looked at her too but my team has osiris and is still too slow to get anything out of burst dmg buffs. Besides herc and pluto, I almost never get DATA out of the rest.

Oh, actually, if you have Osiris, don't get Paimon - Osiris just does that job much better.

The 'fast' dark SSRs are Thanatos and Satan (Thanatos is actually fast, Satan needs AW.) If you don't have those, it's hard to put together a 'fast' dark team ('fast' in quotation 'cos it's slow compared to the meta teams in other elements, but still faster than your regular SR teams.)

Volos is one that I would recommend if you want some DATA. She is also a rage punisher and has the added benefit of having a +5% hp team-wide passive, so when you get better himes and want to retire her, she is still valuable as a sub.

It sounds like you need a burst leader and not team-wide DATA though, in which case Manes is probably the only option. Manes works well if you EX revive on your soul. A little tricky to use well though.

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

Oh, actually, if you have Osiris, don't get Paimon - Osiris just does that job much better.

The 'fast' dark SSRs are Thanatos and Satan (Thanatos is actually fast, Satan needs AW.) If you don't have those, it's hard to put together a 'fast' dark team ('fast' in quotation 'cos it's slow compared to the meta teams in other elements, but still faster than your regular SR teams.)

Volos is one that I would recommend if you want some DATA. She is also a rage punisher and has the added benefit of having a +5% hp team-wide passive, so when you get better himes and want to retire her, she is still valuable as a sub.

It sounds like you need a burst leader and not team-wide DATA though, in which case Manes is probably the only option. Manes works well if you EX revive on your soul. A little tricky to use well though.

Also looked at her too but didn't really see her doing much.
To give you some background info my current team is:
Herc, amon unleashed, pluto, osiris, samael main. Back is dark diana and proserpina.
Thinking to maybe push osiris to the back and drop diana since rn, besides ult raid farming I find myself not really needing a healer to kill before I die. Hence why looking for more DATA to get a burst or 2 off before someone dies and osiris jumps in.

Originally Posted by Nik

Also looked at her too but didn't really see her doing much.
To give you some background info my current team is:
Herc, amon unleashed, pluto, osiris, samael main. Back is dark diana and proserpina.
Thinking to maybe push osiris to the back and drop diana since rn, besides ult raid farming I find myself not really needing a healer to kill before I die. Hence why looking for more DATA to get a burst or 2 off before someone dies and osiris jumps in.

I don’t think any SR can help you if your current team is already look like that

Originally Posted by Nik

Also looked at her too but didn't really see her doing much.

Don't underestimate Volos. I forgot what her multiplier is, but if you burst with her rage punishing move on, she hits like a truck. Her main drawback is that she likely can only use that move once in battle before it ends (but it can still be worth it.)

To give you some background info my current team is:
Herc, amon unleashed, pluto, osiris, samael main. Back is dark diana and proserpina.

Honestly, with a team like that, I would recommend Volos even more - SRs will be very hard to compete for a spot there, so Volos' passive - which works even if she is in sub if I didn't make that clear before - is the most useful since at least she will be contributing to the team even though she doesn't do any of the fighting.

Thinking to maybe push osiris to the back

You can try, but honestly, I will be very surprised if you can burst faster without Osiris - she basically averages 3 BG/turn team-wide. Even if you have a 25% team-wide DA buff, that is only 2.5 BG/turn on average, and only for the duration of the buff. Yes, you get some extra dmg from DATA, but if you account for CD and duration and the fact that bursting deals a lot more dmg than normal attacks, Osiris should still win out.

I find myself not really needing a healer to kill before I die.

Good, that means you can spam Osiris' BG skill without caring about the heal. That paradoxically can make Osiris even MORE attractive to remain on your team.

Note that I don't have Osiris and I haven't used my dark team in a while, so if your experience doesn't jive with what I'm describing, feel free to just ignore it. My understanding is that quite a few vets that use dark teams keep Osiris on their teams though, and it's not for the heal.

Bastet could be chosen as well since she has the same passive as volos but has blindness and elemental buff.

Is it worth it to get SR wep bricks? It feels like my grid is currently stuck because I have all these lb1 SR kami weps with almost maxed skill levels...or should I not be using them period and just get dupes of ult raid weps?