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    Okay, I am running full SSR with Shingen lance, with PF it should bring me to 700%, With Exceed to 820%, and is the cap 1000% ?

    , only hime with special token generation can break the 1000% Burst damage cap? e.g Uriel on your example 550%+1000%


    Am I understanding this correctly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlterX View Post
    Okay, I am running full SSR with Shingen lance, with PF it should bring me to 700%, With Exceed to 820%, and is the cap 1000% ?

    , only hime with special token generation can break the 1000% Burst damage cap? e.g Uriel on your example 550%+1000%


    Am I understanding this correctly?
    Yes.

    Just note that the 120% Exceed comes from using 3x FLB weapons with small Exceed (40% each). I have no idea what Grid you have. Also, there could be others that break 1000%, but I don't think there is a proper list of them anywhere. Wind Atum, Metatron maybe? Nonetheless, it is rare.

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    Need some help optimizing my fire party. tl;dr which is better, Shingen with -40% def and -30% atk (20 atk 10 elemental atk) or d'art and -50% def and -40% atk (30 atk 10 elemental) - have soul weapon for both

    I currently have been running:

    D'art (with soul weapon and Ambush)
    Uriel (awakened)
    Svarog (awakened)
    Prometheus
    Dakki

    I really want to replace Dakki with either Mammon or Amaterasu, however not positive the best way to do this. Assuming I replace Dakki with Amaterasu, I would be getting -20% from her and no longer would need to use D'art, so was thinking of swapping in Shingen and keeping ex skill as ambush. Doing so would mean losing -10 atk/def, giving me only -40% def and -30% atk (20 from amaterasu and 10% wind damage from Prometheus). Not sure if this is really worth it honestly, or if I should simply swap out Dakki for Mammon and leave d'art as my soul.

    Yes I know S-rank souls are a thing, haven't farmed them yet though so not really an option. Thanks for any advice! If this should go in the souls thread instead my apologies feel free to move figured it was more appropriate here as it's around my team/abilities not the soul itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saeleyna View Post
    -- feel free to move --
    There is no moderation left on these forums, so it's not like that's an option~

    Anyway.
    Both Prometheus and Dakki are basically only useful against Wind. Do you only run Fire on-element?

    I would swap Prometheus with Amaterasu, which will allow you to swap your Soul to Shingen - or perhaps better yet, Hercules. Good ol' Hercules with her Axe is still a very strong choice, especially if you're having debuff trouble (which all Fire players without Fire Frey are).


    Also, remember that you can tailor your teams depending on what you're fighting. Need BP? Bring Prometheus. Not fighting against Wind? Bring Mammon over Dakki.

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    Yea I pretty much only run fire on-element - my water comp is my go-to for most everything, but my fire comp is pretty solid and working on getting the weapon grid up to par.

    So you're saying to run Shingen/Herc, Uriel, Svarog, Amaterasu, and Dakki? Obviously not saying Dakki is worthless, just her long cds make me feel like Prometheus would be better than Dakki for on-element with the BP control and wind atk down (plus the wind defense up if attacked). But that's a valid point that I can swap in and out obviously.

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    Dakki has three extremely strong skills (when fighting Wind), but it is true that their uptime sucks.

    Prometheus is a very defensive Hime. This is not inherently a bad thing, but if you can reliably clear content with offensive Hime, then it's always better to run more offensive Hime to make it faster, yes? If you need BP, I'd rather bring it from my Soul rather than Prometheus.

    While Amaterasu is not exactly offensive, her B debuff will allow your Soul to be an offensive one. Also, she has an amazingly strong Blind. In this era of Triggers though, how useful Blind is is... ... questionable. For example, against Bethor, it doesn't do nuffin'.


    So yeah, three extremely different Hime. Just mix and match for the content that you need... ... or just run Water against Wind. If you kinda main Water (which is kinda easy these days since you just need to farm Ophiel for a Grid, and then the problem of having SSR Nike/Aphrodite), then shouldn't you be looking at a Wind team to run Thunder content with?

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    Valid points, thanks!

    And yea, I definitely am working on my wind team as well, just with having Belial my fire team really should be as good as if not better than my water team, and I noticed I hadn't touch my comp in a long while, so wanted to mess with it a bit to make it at least useful for wind fights. But yes I just as easily can run my water comp against most wind fights lol.

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