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    Because sadly, devs are quite a while here from being competent enough.

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    If you are friendly with devtools, you can replace resourceAssetLoader.js with local modifeid version to load local scripts. It's p much against ToS though.

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    Hey all, hoping to get some tips for my water comp now that I'm actually getting back into the game and caring a bit more. Been playing on and off for the last couple months, but haven't really updated a lot/worked towards anything until recently. I pretty much only have my water grid worked on (with wind for thunder content). Currently working on getting accessory unlocks (no kami have one yet), Ophiel as main eidolon and S-rank soul (but that's a ways off still.....).

    Team: Shingen, Shiva, Cthulhu, Nike (U), Ryu-Oh. I swap in Aphro/Ea depending on content. Also have Sarawati, Asherah (no AW but easily can), Shaitan, Raphael (water), and Chernobog (water). I haven't finished leveling Raphael, but I was planning on swapping out Ryu-Oh for Raphael to allow me to use EI instead of SS on shingen. Or should I swap something else around instead?

    Weapon grid: Still working on it and planning on swapping out snowpack hammer with a 2nd rahab knife when I get it there, but anything major that should change?

    For S-rank souls (which are forever away atm), should I just wait until buffs come out at this point? Also, the lack of water resist down in my comp has really been pissing me off - worth using medea solely for this?

    Anyway I know that's a lot don't feel the need to answer everything any help/info is appreciated, and sorry if a lot of this info is elsewhere I did look into a lot of this first >_<.
    Last edited by Saeleyna; 01-27-2021 at 12:38 PM.

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    There is no easy way for you get stronger for now, I think.

    You need to farm, farm, farm. You need more (good) FLB weapons (those 30% Assault Staves are... a bit lackluster IMO) and/or Ophiel Lances. Farm, farm, farm lets you also grab a T4 Soul which will also obviously help.

    For Hime, Water Pluto would probably be a huge help. Since that allows you to run Cthulhu&Pluto, which is a strong core that does -15% Atk and -50% Def. You should also run Shiva for being an easy powerhouse. That still leaves you with one slot for Asherah AW (for speed and burst damage)/Cherno (a beast if you manual)/Aphro (for longer content that needs heals and/or Cleanses).


    But you certainly don't seem weak, so aside from soloing Disasters/Guardians, you should be able to handle everything just fine? So I think the most important question is: what content exactly are you struggling with?

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    You need to farm, farm, farm. You need more (good) FLB weapons (those 30% Assault Staves are... a bit lackluster IMO) and/or Ophiel Lances. Farm, farm, farm lets you also grab a T4 Soul which will also obviously help.
    What's an ideal FLB weapon? Which weapons should I rush to SL30 (I'm assuming the assault/exceed ones)? I have a handful of bricks and some SSR release weapons, but haven't wanted to invest in that yet as not positive what I should be replacing. I have the old union pride weapons as well ofc, but those don't seem that great FLB either.

    But you certainly don't seem weak, so aside from soloing Disasters/Guardians, you should be able to handle everything just fine? So I think the most important question is: what content exactly are you struggling with?
    Nothing really just trying to make it better since I have a lot of mats sitting around I can use to improve things (outside of the farm grind obviously). I can't solo any of the L90 rag fights, but I don't know if that's something that's realistic either. Other than that I can do AQ7 just fine so maybe tower? Haven't tried a tower event recently honestly.....

    I guess the better question then if you think it's mostly a grind at this point is hold off on improving this until I get better weapons and invest into other elements, or simply beef this up how I can currently anyway knowing stuff will get replaced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saeleyna View Post
    What's an ideal FLB weapon? Which weapons should I rush to SL30 (I'm assuming the assault/exceed ones)? I have a handful of bricks and some SSR release weapons, but haven't wanted to invest in that yet as not positive what I should be replacing. I have the old union pride weapons as well ofc, but those don't seem that great FLB either.
    If you ask me, priorities are:
    0. Assault/Pride goes into every weapon. This is a requirement for a weapon to be in your Grid.
    1. Exceed, IF needed. If your attack damage (with debuffs) is 1/5 of your burst damage cap. Or should I say, if you hit for 200k, then you want one Exceed. If you hit for 260k, then you want two Exceeds. 320k, three Exceeds. Damage cap 350k? Four Exceeds. Notice that if you use PF, you need to use 7 instead of 5 (so 185k/228k/271k).
    2. HP. You want HP. HP is good for you. More HP until you reach about 20k with Ophiel. This is really difficult for Water since Ophiel Lances don't have HP on them, nor does Water Exceed weapons.
    3. Vigor. Vigor is great to have... when you're at full health. A flaky stat, but enables you to deal amazing damage.
    4. Ascension. Want to keep your Vigor working? Well, this helps. Notice that you'll probably need to run Aphrodite for all content if you go heavily into #3 and #4.
    5. Elaborate. Notice, currently a trash stat, but one or two is very nice after we get Anniversary patch, which is either in a week or a couple of months depending on what Nutaku does.

    Getting two of the above is good, but getting three of the above in one weapon is much better. Ophiel Lances hits #0, #3 and #4. This makes them pretty damn good. Would I take Assault/Exceed/HP over it? Any day. Is that an option? Not in Water it isn't. You get what you have. Like... Water Labyrinth weapon for example, if you got that.

    Bricks are for:
    1. The Anniversary upcoming 50 Dragon Eye weapons.
    2. Merc Axes which cost 15 Dragon Eyes. Remember, you only need two of these puppies and you're set for life on Exceeds (once Anniversary hits).
    3. Good Hime weapons. For Water, that's... kinda just Dadga Hammer I think?

    Please don't use bricks for anything else.
    Quote Originally Posted by Saeleyna View Post
    -- I can't solo any of the L90 rag fights, but I don't know if that's something that's realistic either.
    It's plenty doable. I can solo most Disaster Rags and Guardians, and that's not a feat at this point at all. Just about everyone who has been invested into Kamihime since launch is able to, probably. Heck, dreamlitz has started a series about solo beating them with R teams...

    Anyway, you should join a Union which has one person capable of such things. You need looooots of Ophiels, since you need to buy 20 Ophiel Lances. By minimum you should buy two per month, so 50 Treasures. But then it'll take you 10 months to complete your Grid (assuming you drops). So buying the full 4 will cost you a whopping... what was it, 225 Treasures a month? Yeah, you're gonna need looooots of Ophiels. Find somebody who is willing to help you farm that thing daily and you'll be far stronger in a few months. And did I see that you haven't unlocked all Accessory slots either - have fun farming Ult Waters for all the Regalia you're going to need!

    If you want to be serious with Water though, you'll also need some kind of Thunder team. Since Ophiel+ is coming, which can only be fought with a Thunder team. Ophiel+ will allow you to FLB Ophiel Lances, which needlessly say are good enough for your Grid even without FLB, but with FLB they'll be pretty goddamn good...


    So uh... tl;dr; version: have fun grinding! I hope this has helped!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    If you want to be serious with Water though, you'll also need some kind of Thunder team. Since Ophiel+ is coming, which can only be fought with a Thunder team. Ophiel+ will allow you to FLB Ophiel Lances, which needlessly say are good enough for your Grid even without FLB, but with FLB they'll be pretty goddamn good...


    So uh... tl;dr; version: have fun grinding! I hope this has helped!
    It did quite a lot, thanks! My thunder grid is nowhere near as competitive as my water grid, but it's not terrible shouldn't take too long to get it decent. Mind quickly giving thoughts on himes?
    Thunder team is: Brahma, Athena, Ymir, and Anshar with Justitia and Nuwa in reserve. I've been going back and forth on using d'art or (if nidhoggr support) Shingen. Nuwa seems like she'd be really good, but having no sustain in my comp has been a bit of a struggle leaving either andro support or putting in an SR for heals..... Grid not even bothering to show as it needs a lot of work atm. Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saeleyna View Post
    Hey all, hoping to get some tips for my water comp now that I'm actually getting back into the game and caring a bit more. Been playing on and off for the last couple months, but haven't really updated a lot/worked towards anything until recently. I pretty much only have my water grid worked on (with wind for thunder content). Currently working on getting accessory unlocks (no kami have one yet), Ophiel as main eidolon and S-rank soul (but that's a ways off still.....).

    Team: Shingen, Shiva, Cthulhu, Nike (U), Ryu-Oh. I swap in Aphro/Ea depending on content. Also have Sarawati, Asherah (no AW but easily can), Shaitan, Raphael (water), and Chernobog (water). I haven't finished leveling Raphael, but I was planning on swapping out Ryu-Oh for Raphael to allow me to use EI instead of SS on shingen. Or should I swap something else around instead?

    Weapon grid: Still working on it and planning on swapping out snowpack hammer with a 2nd rahab knife when I get it there, but anything major that should change?

    For S-rank souls (which are forever away atm), should I just wait until buffs come out at this point? Also, the lack of water resist down in my comp has really been pissing me off - worth using medea solely for this?

    Anyway I know that's a lot don't feel the need to answer everything any help/info is appreciated, and sorry if a lot of this info is elsewhere I did look into a lot of this first >_<.

    I think a strong core team for water is ShivaAW, CthulhuAW, Aphrodite and Saraswati. You'll need water lances (they're currently BIS farmable content) and with a strong sustain from Aphro and Sara you'll be able to take on tougher content. I don't think you really need -50% def debuff solo anymore (especially in group raids). When you expect to take high damage content swap Saraswati for Raphael.

    Dejnov.

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