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    Arvis Guest

    Element of Sub-Weapons

    hey guys, lets say I want to focus on a light team and build a party, and I will have Phoenix as my main eid. Considering her buff being "Light/Thunder ATK + 40%", I built a semi-light and semi-thunder team from the previous event. So now I have a problem with sub-weapons.

    So like, If I equip thunder and light weapons only,excluding rarity effects, would I get higher overall stats from the weapon skills or the only weapon skill effects Ill get are from my main weapon equipped?

    Also want to know if the answer applies to eids tyvm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvis View Post
    hey guys, lets say I want to focus on a light team and build a party, and I will have Phoenix as my main eid. Considering her buff being "Light/Thunder ATK + 40%", I built a semi-light and semi-thunder team from the previous event. So now I have a problem with sub-weapons.

    So like, If I equip thunder and light weapons only,excluding rarity effects, would I get higher overall stats from the weapon skills or the only weapon skill effects Ill get are from my main weapon equipped?

    Also want to know if the answer applies to eids tyvm
    Well, your light kamihime will be affected by light weapons skills, your thunder kamihime will be affected by thunder weapons skills, and your souls be affected by skills which match her main weapon equipped.

    However, be aware that a team like that will be underpowered comparing to a pure element team.
    Its ok if you have a kamihime from a different element completing your team as long as she's not a dps (for example a thunder team with Sol or Belobog is ok, a light team with Tyr or Baal not really)

    Also both element element have very few access to def debuff :
    No B frame at all.
    Tyr and Dike only have access to a -10% A frame.
    It wont be changed in the future, only Dianne (SR light) will bring a -15% A frame in few month.
    In the end, so you'll have to rely on soul's debuff (Mordred / Granuaile / Dart for B frame, Gawain for A frame)
    If not, your "already low" damage will be even lower.

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    Unregistered Guest
    Well, not much can be done by those who got no SSR hime(if only i knew about rerolls earler !). And i want to ask: what combination of elements you will recommend ? I have Artemis, Dike and Urania for light, so i have to add another element. So, what to add for next event ? I stopped on Nike and Belphegor for now, but i can add either Agni/Amon or Cubelle/Hermes/Heimdall, as my single legendary soul is Andromeda and i won't be crippled without Nike heal too much. Any advice ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Well, not much can be done by those who got no SSR hime(if only i knew about rerolls earler !). And i want to ask: what combination of elements you will recommend ? I have Artemis, Dike and Urania for light, so i have to add another element. So, what to add for next event ? I stopped on Nike and Belphegor for now, but i can add either Agni/Amon or Cubelle/Hermes/Heimdall, as my single legendary soul is Andromeda and i won't be crippled without Nike heal too much. Any advice ?
    What i was saying was for a long-term view. You don't really have to care about if you have a poorly supplied weapon grid.
    There isnt any recommended combination of element, some eidolons will just increase 2 element at the same time and allow you to increase your damage a bit if you don't have a full element team (for example dark/fire, light/thunder, water/wind)

    In your particular case yep, Nike is a good choice, belphegor aswell (good debuff, rage bar depletion and stun extend if it doesnt miss like it does usually).
    Or Baal who will benefit from Phoenix buff, even if i think Belphegor is a better choice for her "boss control"
    Amon could be an option too for her immunity to affliction, but it wouldnt be my first choice.
    Last edited by Yolodesu; 04-16-2017 at 10:28 AM.

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    Unregistered Guest
    I'd say try Belphegor first, then Nike if Belphegor isn't working. I'm assuming that you'll be using something like Maiden's Prayer as your ex skill, so Belphegor gets priority to fill in the B-frame debuffing.

    (Cybele or Baal for the event after next, as that'll be thunder)

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    Which Soul should I use with this himes? Sorry for my bad English
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yusuke View Post
    Which Soul should I use with this himes? Sorry for my bad English
    thats a nice team you have

    I guess your main team is Shiva + Poseidon + Satan + Nike?

    If so your best choice is Andromeda imo. Then aim for Granuaile / Dart debuff for ex skill (sniper shot)
    You'll be able to replace Satan with Gabriel in ~2weeks (SR water hime, Same def debuff, brings some buff)

    Andromeda + Sniper shot will also be your best choice if you build a little dark team with Satan + Tsuku + Mephisto + Amon.
    You'll maybe be happy to know that the 3rd kamihime you can get from raid event will be dark element (=> Valor )

    If you want a more offensive team, you can replace Andromeda with Siegfried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yusuke View Post
    Which Soul should I use with this himes? Sorry for my bad English
    I think you just use 4 water hime, go Jormungand as your primary Eidolon, and keep either Satan or Tsukuyomi with you in the last slot. I like Tsuku more, Satan does more damage but Tsukuyomi can blind and synergizes a lot with poseidon and boosts attack of entire team instead of just herself. Either is fine really. Your heroic soul should be andromeda for tough raids and whatever you want for easier ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Well, not much can be done by those who got no SSR hime(if only i knew about rerolls earler !). And i want to ask: what combination of elements you will recommend ? I have Artemis, Dike and Urania for light, so i have to add another element. So, what to add for next event ? I stopped on Nike and Belphegor for now, but i can add either Agni/Amon or Cubelle/Hermes/Heimdall, as my single legendary soul is Andromeda and i won't be crippled without Nike heal too much. Any advice ?
    For Medusa event, definitely Amon, for her affliction immunity.

    Beyond that, basically you need the soul to provide debuffs (Gawin w/ EX ablity from Granuaile/D'artagnan), then the hime form another element need to be a healer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    For Medusa event, definitely Amon, for her affliction immunity.

    Beyond that, basically you need the soul to provide debuffs (Gawin w/ EX ablity from Granuaile/D'artagnan), then the hime form another element need to be a healer.
    Not necessary. Medusa can cast petrified multiple times in a row, a 8 turn cd immunity wont be really helpful if it happen. I would also be tempted to try Belphegor first as being said, since she will bring both debuff and stun extend (no special ability cast during stun = no petrified)
    On top of that, Maiden's prayer in Ex skill slot, some friends with Phoenix for affliction resistance and he's good to go.

    + He said his only legendary soul was Andromeda, so i assume he didnt unlock Granuaile yet (and her ex skill isnt required if he goes with Belphegor).
    Gawain is useless since Dike brings A frame debuff already.

    Also why healer from another element only?
    Avoid damage dealer for obvious reasons but as long as the kamihime provide interesting ability (heal/buff/debuff) its totally viable.

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