Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Aidoru

As mentioned, just because you have all elements, doesn't mean you can't have more priority on one over the other. It's better to have at least 1 or 2 very strong teams that can handle the difficult content with little problems than it is to have 6 teams that struggle. Of course, this is assuming you're not a whale, cause if you are and is one to spend a bunch of money, then this becomes irrelevant.

I have a team of each element and my main element is light which I use to handle all the hard content such as advent Ragnarok stages and advent events in general since they're far more difficult than raid events. Elemental advantages help but they're not always needed and variety is a good thing to have but when it comes to raid events, all I do is tab away with auto battle on. Not exactly much of an different experience.

And back onto the question, I would also only pick Belobog only from that list as she's a healer so you'llmost likely use her more often, unless you have Sol. Not the best but still viable to a degree. You'll want to max out any girls you use in general but it doesn't hurt to save a few in case you get lucky with other draws.

well, 1 or 2 strong teams might be my dark (satan, susanoo) and thunder (tyr) teams, but the problem is the weapon which i need to change and level up the skills.
i mean in thunder team i have multiple SSR weapons but only 2 have attack skill (ixion's sword and the hammer from jorm) so i need more attack weapons there.
and in dark i have a little more attack weapons, but aside apocalype's lance they're low level (in terms of skill) so i have some work to do with it too.


to be honest, i won't get any new kamihime anytime soon..i'm saving my jewels and tickets for a while and will use them later.
at first i've thought to used them before the dark raid boss as we'll have higher chance to find light kami, which i don't have much.
but then i've thought to wait before the wind union event so i'll have a chance to find fire kami and maybe summer sol too (if it won't be expired by that time lol)
so i guess we'll have some more events before i actually use those tickets and jewels.

That's another reason why you should focus on 1 or 2 teams first, so you don't have to struggle trying to get weapons for each team. Your dark team would be the best option since a dark team can handle all content while a thunder team will struggle against wind events. You can farm disaster raids in-between events or advent events for SR assault weapons.

Leveling weapon skills shouldn't be a problem. You can easily get most to Lv10 skill with little effort from gem gacha for R weapons and extra SR defender weapons from events/disaster.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

That's another reason why you should focus on 1 or 2 teams first, so you don't have to struggle trying to get weapons for each team.

Don't you get it? The fickleness forces him to play 6 teams.

6 teams is defensible; I do it and can clear the normal farming content (I can't do Ragnarok though). The key here is that as a player, you have to accept the trade-off between variety and rate of progression. I set out from the start to change what team I use based on whatever the event is, as I know I'd get bored otherwise. I also from the start acknowledge and accept that I will progress slower than if I were to focus on fewer teams.
At the end of the day, you have to understand yourself as a player and what you need/want to continue enjoying a game.

As far as grimoire usage...
If you use all 6 elements, then what you really care about from the last limit break is the 2nd skill improvement, so let's look at those:
Belobog's 2nd skill buffs defense more
Tsukuyomi's hit all skill gets its cooldown shortened by a turn
Triton's 2nd skill debuffs attack more
Balor's 2nd skill (poison/dizzy) gets 'performance/efficiency up'
Tezcatlipoca's 2nd skill burst gauge increase goes from 10 to 15
Baldr's self-invincibility skill gets its cooldown shortened by a turn

My personal ranking of those particular skill improvements in a vacuum would be something like...
Triton > Belobog > Tsukuyomi/Balor > Tezcatlipoca > Baldr (I do not like Baldr)

Balor's a bit tricky to place as I'm not actually sure of what the improvement is.

Things do get a bit more complicated when we consider that the distribution of event elements is uneven.

So, next event is light. After that event, the following... let's go with 12 events, go as:
Fire advent, Dark raid, Water advent, Dark/Fire raid (Dark standard, Fire expert/rag), Wind union, Thunder advent, Dark/Illusion* raid (Dark standard/expert, Illusion ragnarok), Fire union, Light advent, Thunder advent (Koihime collaboration; dunno if we'll see it), Dark union, Water advent

Since your supply of grimoires slowly get replenished with each event, that may or may not shuffle priorities around. Tezcatlipoca probably won't see play until 4 events from now. Belobog/Baldr would be 3 events from now. Triton would be the 2nd event from now. Tsukuyomi/Balor would be used next event. One idea is to spend 10 or 15 grimoires on limit breaking kamihime that'll be used over the next couple of events, if you trust in your ability to continue to steadily accrue grimoires going forward (ie not going on a vacation or something).

What I'd do in your situation? Triton/Belobog/maybe Balor would be my picks. I skip Tsukuyomi as I don't care about a lower damage hit-all attack skill having a lower cooldown when the event doesn't have trash mobs, and the next Light advent won't be for a while. I'm a bit hesitant on Balor as I'm not entirely sure how much of a help that skill improvement is, but I'm guessing it'd be more relevant in a union event than Tsukuyomi's. If you really want to keep a reserve of grimoires, then just Triton and Belobog.

*Illusion is the rarely used element that's basically 'I hit everybody else harder AND everybody else hits me harder'

Originally Posted by Unregistered

6 teams is defensible; I do it and can clear the normal farming content (I can't do Ragnarok though). The key here is that as a player, you have to accept the trade-off between variety and rate of progression. I set out from the start to change what team I use based on whatever the event is, as I know I'd get bored otherwise. I also from the start acknowledge and accept that I will progress slower than if I were to focus on fewer teams.
At the end of the day, you have to understand yourself as a player and what you need/want to continue enjoying a game.

As far as grimoire usage...
If you use all 6 elements, then what you really care about from the last limit break is the 2nd skill improvement, so let's look at those:
Belobog's 2nd skill buffs defense more
Tsukuyomi's hit all skill gets its cooldown shortened by a turn
Triton's 2nd skill debuffs attack more
Balor's 2nd skill (poison/dizzy) gets 'performance/efficiency up'
Tezcatlipoca's 2nd skill burst gauge increase goes from 10 to 15
Baldr's self-invincibility skill gets its cooldown shortened by a turn

My personal ranking of those particular skill improvements in a vacuum would be something like...
Triton > Belobog > Tsukuyomi/Balor > Tezcatlipoca > Baldr (I do not like Baldr)

Balor's a bit tricky to place as I'm not actually sure of what the improvement is.

Things do get a bit more complicated when we consider that the distribution of event elements is uneven.

So, next event is light. After that event, the following... let's go with 12 events, go as:
Fire advent, Dark raid, Water advent, Dark/Fire raid (Dark standard, Fire expert/rag), Wind union, Thunder advent, Dark/Illusion* raid (Dark standard/expert, Illusion ragnarok), Fire union, Light advent, Thunder advent (Koihime collaboration; dunno if we'll see it), Dark union, Water advent

Since your supply of grimoires slowly get replenished with each event, that may or may not shuffle priorities around. Tezcatlipoca probably won't see play until 4 events from now. Belobog/Baldr would be 3 events from now. Triton would be the 2nd event from now. Tsukuyomi/Balor would be used next event. One idea is to spend 10 or 15 grimoires on limit breaking kamihime that'll be used over the next couple of events, if you trust in your ability to continue to steadily accrue grimoires going forward (ie not going on a vacation or something).

What I'd do in your situation? Triton/Belobog/maybe Balor would be my picks. I skip Tsukuyomi as I don't care about a lower damage hit-all attack skill having a lower cooldown when the event doesn't have trash mobs, and the next Light advent won't be for a while. I'm a bit hesitant on Balor as I'm not entirely sure how much of a help that skill improvement is, but I'm guessing it'd be more relevant in a union event than Tsukuyomi's. If you really want to keep a reserve of grimoires, then just Triton and Belobog.

*Illusion is the rarely used element that's basically 'I hit everybody else harder AND everybody else hits me harder'

that illusion sounds like a double edge if both sides hits each other harder, so i can just come with my strongest team so i can deal more damage and be sure i'll deal higher damage, but also bring a healer and +defense (andromeda/cassi) so i can heal and decrese a bit the damage against her i guess.

i won't go to vacation any time soon so i have more time to practice in events and get more grimoires and as i wrote before, i may not get any new kamihime soon as i still haven't decided if to use my tickets and jewels before the dark raid of before the wind union as it's a chance to get fire and light kamihime and improve those teams (hopefully wind union won't be after summer edition is over so summer sol will have a chance to show up in gacha as well)
so i think i can mlb all of them before i get new kamihime.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Light and dark have the advantage against all other elements and even so with each other. They are one-sided towards the player's advantage, meaning your light and dark teams deal more damage to dark and light enemies while receiving less damage from them. That's why many prioritize a dark or light team as they can handle all content without needing a back up.

As for the weapon, level up 3 of your dark SR raid guns and replace them with your SR HP weapons and break them as you get more and eventually replace your gatcha weapons that probably won't be getting max breaked any soon. The only reason you should use SR HP weapons is because you need an equip for your soul or if you literally have nothing else. They're a waste to use and yours aren't even that high or that far off from a no break SR weapon's first lvl cap, so using the 3 of the guns at no break would be a better option. If your SR HP weapons were maxed out for some reason, then it'd be different.

are you sure i should just replace 3 of my dark weapons instead of the other 3 that aren't dark type at all?
i have 7 dark weapon for this team (not using balor's weapon) so if i replace them with 3 guns it'll be a full set of dark weapon, although the other 3 weapon have 1965-2152 attack so maybe it's better to keep them for the attack and replace the dark HP weapons as they are weaker?

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Your selection of kamihime points squarely at making a primary Dark team. Focus your resources--character XP, character limit breaks, weapon XP, weapon skill XP, weapon limit breaks--on that element exclusively for the time being. Andromeda and Belobog can heal. Satan will give a type A def debuff, Belobog will give a type A atk debuff, and Sniper Shot will provide the strong type B atk/def debuff you need. Balor will supply other debuffs. Ideally you'll want to pick up a dark kamihime with a type B debuff at some point in case your current soul can't provide it.

hmm..belobog is a light type though so she won't get any boost from all my dark weapon and be really weak.
i have all of the current souls so can use sniper shot, didn't know i could combine it with satan defense -, i assume i can do the same with tyr in thunder team as well ?
and to pick dark kamihime with b type of debuff? can you give me example of dark kamihime like that?
for now my dark kami are: susanoo, satan, balor, beelzebub, tsukuyomi, astaroth and mephistopheles so i doubt i have someone with b debuff atm but maybe in the future.
btw, you said to mlb my weapons too, though one of them is satan's weapon so i wanted to ask..
in the future there will be an item that allow you to limit break weapons without finding them in gacha? 'cause i'm not sure i can find another copy of her weapon.

Farm the Dark assault SR from the Disaster. You should be spawning it 6x per day outside of events. Obviously make sure you MLB every assault SR from Advents, and be active during Raid events that provide them.

I don't know of any SR Dark kamihime with a type B atk/def debuff, but I didn't look that hard. It'll be your element, so you should look into it.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Farm the Dark assault SR from the Disaster. You should be spawning it 6x per day outside of events. Obviously make sure you MLB every assault SR from Advents, and be active during Raid events that provide them.

I don't know of any SR Dark kamihime with a type B atk/def debuff, but I didn't look that hard. It'll be your element, so you should look into it.

so far i had 4 unused SR guns from raid boss, limit break 1 of them to 1 star and got its skill to level 7, i'll keep to level up the skill after reset when i can spam another 100K gems XD

Originally Posted by Unregistered

SR Lu Feng (mistranslated to Lu Cloth ???wtf google) has a B frame single target atk & def down -15%.
SSR Nikki Hime Amaterasu has a B frame party wide atk & def down -20%

Waiting for them to arrive with their respective events is a whole separate story though, not to mention actually getting them.

hmm..i'll most likely won't find that amaterasu unless we'll have that miracle ticket or luck out, but lu feng would be nice.
btw, saw in lu feng an ability "give yourself a runaway" it means that she can avoid enemy attack or something?

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Farm the Dark assault SR from the Disaster. You should be spawning it 6x per day outside of events. Obviously make sure you MLB every assault SR from Advents, and be active during Raid events that provide them.

I don't know of any SR Dark kamihime with a type B atk/def debuff, but I didn't look that hard. It'll be your element, so you should look into it.

emm excuse me...i'm just wondering if there is a mistake? type B? isn't B clash with sniper shot?
i think what we after should be C frame? like Cthulu from water?
<def down>
A frame we can get from Dark Amon/Satan(Amon's better)
B frame commonly known from D'Art's Sniper Shot/Amaterasu(Ama's better)
C frame there is none i know so far, i been gone through the hime list and i found thanatos with it

for atk down
A frame from Joan
B frame from D'Art/Ama again
C frame from Sol/Zeph

I just unlocked Cassiopeia, tried to switch on her, and i got crash "An error has occurred...". Tried other souls, they work. Tried switch to Cassiopeia on other parties and from different souls. Nothing didn't help, i wrote to support, they're not answered yet, so im just curious, is there somebody with same bug, and mb there is possibility to fix it easily.

//sry for bad english

Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

and to pick dark kamihime with b type of debuff? can you give me example of dark kamihime like that?

SR Lu Feng (mistranslated to Lu Cloth ???wtf google) has a B frame single target atk & def down -15%.
SSR Nikki Hime Amaterasu has a B frame party wide atk & def down -20%

Waiting for them to arrive with their respective events is a whole separate story though, not to mention actually getting them.