Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

what is recommended lvl for expert raid & sp quest

just wondering, is it worth it to put odin in my wind team? her skills are-
1. wind damage too all enemies and gauge up
2.Increase your successive attack probability / defense down (large)
3. Attack up according to the amount of decrease of your HP
so first and third sounds kinda ok, but 2nd skill is....really? self defense debuff to increase her successive attack? sounds like a bad skill...

as about my wind formation, for now i go with-
Arthur (Ex black propaganda) - attack buff, can fill her burst gauge+ the weapon increase her own attack after burst attack
Gaia- cut damage and cover for allies.
Oberon- A frame attack and defense debuff and also can make enemy dizzy
Cybele- B frame attack and defense debuff, have a skill to avoid attack so can survive overdrive attack
Freja- can increase 1 ally's attack and def (frame B) so can increase arthur's attack on first turn with burst attack.
she can also heal 1 ally with about 1800HP if i remember right.
and also have maeve and cronus in sub team.

so...is it worth to add odin to my team at all? if so instead of what kami?

Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

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so first and third sounds kinda ok, but 2nd skill is....really? self defense debuff to increase her successive attack? sounds like a bad skill...--

I got Odin myself, and I thought so too. Then I tried it out.

The combo+ buff is INSANE. I roughly estimate her to hit 60% double, 30% triple and 10% single. Yes, it really sucks ass when she does a single attack, but it's still huge. It's even more huge when you use Berserk, like from Puck who gives double damage, or Cagliostro. Double damage + her combo+ = 4.4x damage per turn on average.

In addition, you have Freya. Freya can give Intercept, no? Berserk + Intercept is quadruple damage. That's a lot of fun if it lands.


Sadly though, the Def cut from Odin's skill is -50%, so she takes double damage. Thus, she's not really... valid for proper content. This will get cut to -30% roughly around June 2018. That might make Odin valid... but probably not.
Also, your Wind team is pretty damn good, so you can't really afford to use Puck or Cagliostro.

I'd say use an alternative team for Wind on which you can have fun with. It's extremely impressive to see Odin go wild on triple attacks under Berserk. But against anything serious? ... you probably need to just forget about her. I guess she's better than Cronus as your second sub, but that's pretty much it I think.

EDIT: Oh yeah, by the way, Odin heals herself for 3000 damage on every Burst. That's quite the only thing she has going for her, as it synergises very well with her "gain extra Burst from damage taken" and first skill.

Originally Posted by Slashley

I got Odin myself, and I thought so too. Then I tried it out.

The combo+ buff is INSANE. I roughly estimate her to hit 60% double, 30% triple and 10% single. Yes, it really sucks ass when she does a single attack, but it's still huge. It's even more huge when you use Berserk, like from Puck who gives double damage, or Cagliostro. Double damage + her combo+ = 4.4x damage per turn on average.

In addition, you have Freya. Freya can give Intercept, no? Berserk + Intercept is quadruple damage. That's a lot of fun if it lands.


Sadly though, the Def cut from Odin's skill is -50%, so she takes double damage. Thus, she's not really... valid for proper content. This will get cut to -30% roughly around June 2018. That might make Odin valid... but probably not.
Also, your Wind team is pretty damn good, so you can't really afford to use Puck or Cagliostro.

I'd say use an alternative team for Wind on which you can have fun with. It's extremely impressive to see Odin go wild on triple attacks under Berserk. But against anything serious? ... you probably need to just forget about her. I guess she's better than Cronus as your second sub, but that's pretty much it I think.

EDIT: Oh yeah, by the way, Odin heals herself for 3000 damage on every Burst. That's quite the only thing she has going for her, as it synergises very well with her "gain extra Burst from damage taken" and first skill.

hmm...so if i use arthur attack boost+give her freja's attack boost+ let say bersek and...what does Intercept actually do?
so she can deal a lot of damage (when she use that skill and have low HP?)...sounds nice, but as said her def debuff is a problem.
if just 1 of the kami in team/soul could heal debuff :O
i guess that i can try her out soon, we should have thunder advent event so i can make a team for fun for ultimate mode as it should be easy and test her.
just noticed about her burst skill yesterday, not used to see much kamis with burst skill and healling up to 3K HP sounds nice.
but as sana suggested maybe i should wait for titania if i decide to take her for offense team.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Sub Zephyr for Freya. Forget about Odin. You'll want to use Andromeda for most content to make up for lack of heals. The type C ATK debuff from Zephyr will greatly enhance your endurance.

Odin could work well with Titania, who grants a type B ATK/DEF buff. That would cancel out the DEF debuff. Otherwise, without a means to cancel out or cleanse the DEF debuff, Odin would be a liability. But overall, Odin is just a weaker version of SSR Cybele. You can tell the devs had a concept for Wind as a Burst-heavy element, but the initial implementation was pretty flawed.

the team i wrote down was my offense wind team that focus on dealing damge, i don't think zephyrus have a place there, but maybe in defensive wind with arc as soul so can enjoy both cut damage of her and gaia.
actually i kinda planned to get titania as instead of my freja as both have attack+defense up, but it's up to luck (or...miracle ticket)
so if i get titania then i should use her too? if so titania will replace freja and odin oberon/cybele (maybe cybele and use sniper shot as EX skill)

Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

-- what does Intercept actually do?--

Intercept makes you immune to normal attack, while countering each attack with a double damage one.

So, it can be amazing... ... if only something targets those who have Intercept up. And that's very unreliable.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Intercept makes you immune to normal attack, while countering each attack with a double damage one.

So, it can be amazing... ... if only something targets those who have Intercept up. And that's very unreliable.

I believe the counter-strike is 2x-3x your normal attack's dmg.

But yes, as you have mentioned intercept can be incredibly powerful, especially if the boss decides to tripple-attack ... at that specific hime, in that specific turn.

Gaia alone is sufficient to mitigate most bosses, once Awakened. Her Cover can nullify one single-target Overdrive, while her damage mitigate can mitigate damage from an AoE Overdrive. That's sufficient to handle two overdrives every 6 turns. You'll want a secondary source of healing though.

The composition I'm eyeing is: Shingen/Joan, Titania/SSR Cybele, Gaia, Oberon/Hastur, Sol. Not sure if Titania is worth spending a Miracle Ticket on though. She doesn't have any debuffs, so fitting her into a group without Oberon or Hastur would be tough. She's a lower priority than Gaia and SSR Cybele, so really it's her vs. Sol (Awakened), and Sol wins. What that means for me is that there's nothing all that good (for a Wind team) to spend the first Miracle Ticket on.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Intercept makes you immune to normal attack, while countering each attack with a double damage one.

So, it can be amazing... ... if only something targets those who have Intercept up. And that's very unreliable.

i see, so if she decide to attack odin she'll get really high damage with her buff on, but it's kind og a gamble, will she attack or or not?
on the other hand, i can use it for gaia when gaia use the ability to cover foe allies, so not only she won't get damage at all she'll surely to to do more damage.
although her self defense buff will be kinda wasted, or at least so it may feel XD

Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

i see, so if she decide to attack odin she'll get really high damage with her buff on, but it's kind og a gamble, will she attack or or not?--

Yes.

The dream is, you fight something like Phoenix who has no "skill" to use and will often multi-attack.
You buff up Odin's combo+ skill, Berserk and Intercept (plus whatever other atk+ buffs).
Odin's first skill is +20 Burst, triple attacks for 2x damage (6x damage so far), boss triple attacks Odin, Odin takes no damage and hits back for 4x damage (12x damage counter, 18x damage done so far). Just by herself, Odin by herself has dealt as much damage as you'd deal in almost FOUR TURNS. If you use A and B atk+ buffs on Odin, I'm pretty sure that'll go way past four turns. And gained +80 Burst by herself in a single turn, too.

Is that good? Hell yes.
Is that fun? Oh yes.
Is that viable? Sadly, no. It's just way too unlikely, plus it requires you to run Berserk.

Odin is sadly around the powerlevel of a good SR. Something like Oberon is a great SR thanks to her double debuffs, for example.

Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

Arthur (Ex black propaganda) - attack buff, can fill her burst gauge+ the weapon increase her own attack after burst attack
Gaia- cut damage and cover for allies.
Oberon- A frame attack and defense debuff and also can make enemy dizzy
Cybele- B frame attack and defense debuff, have a skill to avoid attack so can survive overdrive attack
Freja- can increase 1 ally's attack and def (frame B) so can increase arthur's attack on first turn with burst attack.

Sub Zephyr for Freya. Forget about Odin. You'll want to use Andromeda for most content to make up for lack of heals. The type C ATK debuff from Zephyr will greatly enhance your endurance.

Odin could work well with Titania, who grants a type B ATK/DEF buff. That would cancel out the DEF debuff. Otherwise, without a means to cancel out or cleanse the DEF debuff, Odin would be a liability. But overall, Odin is just a weaker version of SSR Cybele. You can tell the devs had a concept for Wind as a Burst-heavy element, but the initial implementation was pretty flawed.