KamiPro - Game Guide/FAQ Thread

[Old Greggers]

Okay, so I had not focused on weapon stats at all in my tests, in theory they should be irrelevant to the numbers I am referring to. I think the best way to isolate this for me to make these same tests in a party with NO weapons at all. If the same number inconsistencies exist, we can say that weapons aren't having an effect on the numbers I supplied earlier.

(I know you can't see the difference in time here, but I had stopped replying to do this test before I continued, haha)

So I just did the same test, except this time, I only have 1 Soul, 2 Kamihime, and 2 Eidolons in my party. No weapons whatsoever.

I am using the same two Kamihime as in my example above. Ignis, the Fire type, and Beelzebub, the Dark type. The Eidolon in the sub section is the same one I used earlier, Prison of Fire, Disaster.

Since it is in the sub section, according to what you are saying, it should not have any effect on the Kamihime in my party. The passive of an increased 10% HP and ATK for fire types should not be working. If I am understanding you correctly.

The Eidolon's HP is 197 and it's ATK is 393.

When I remove this Eidolon from my party completely, both Kamihime become weaker.

Beelzebub, the Dark Type, loses 197 HP and 393 ATK. This makes complete sense. This is 100% of the base value of the Eidolon (Prison of Fire, Disaster)

Ignis, the Fire type, loses 216 HP and 432 ATK. This means that she loses and additional 19 HP and 39 ATK when compared to Beelzebub. These values are 10% of the base value of the Eidolon we are using (again, Prison of Fire, Disaster). So, this means that in total, Ignis has lost 110% of the base value of our Eidolon.

Okay, so let's try to further isolate our subjects here. The Eidolon I have in the Main slot has a passive that would not affect either of these Kamihime (Wind Power Up). So, we know that the extra stats that Ignis is losing cannot be attributed to that.

We also know that our Soul cannot be the reason why Ignis lost more HP/ATK than Beelzebub because if our Soul had some passive that buffed our party in some way, Beelzebub would should have lost more stats. (We can also read our Soul's stats to see that she doesn't have such a passive, but stating it in the way that I did is just in case there is something in her abilities that isn't obvious).

FINALLY, we can look at the abilities of Ignis.

Her abilties are:

BURST: Bomb Flurry - Fire DMG (+)

Ability (Useable): Spitfire+ - Deals 1~1.5x Fire DMG to all enemies * shortens turn

Ability (Useable): Lovey Dovey - ATK^ & DEF v (+)

Her latter two abilities are useable; They should not be affecting her stats at all unless she was in combat.

Her Burst ability suggests nothing of extra stats from Eidolons in your sub tab.

So, we have examined every other possible explanation for why Ignis lost 110% of our Eidolon's stats and why Beelzebub only lost 100%.

The only plausible explanation to me would be that the passive of our Eidolon is working, even in the sub tab.


I see that you are responding with another post soon, so perhaps I am still wrong. I will await your next post

EDIT: I apologize for ignoring your second post for the most part. In truth, weapon stats are not something I know much about. However, in new examples, they should not be relevant at all, so I am hoping that this clears everything up on both sides so we can figure out what is happening here.

EDIT 2, haha: I had just read your revised post; my Soul should not have ANY element at the moment (as I have no weapons equipped). However, there is still a 10% difference, so it should not matter as far as I can tell :/

EDIT 3: OOOOH, by main character, are you referring to all of the Kamihime? I think I understand now. Give me a second and I'll check to see if what I THINK you're saying is right.