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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramazan View Post
    Dunno what you guys are arguing about but focusing to elements only happens at gacha screen
    not true, lot of progression is from farming SR weapons from raid boss. since u decide what u want to spend ur ap and bp on, you can focus 1 element with that too. each standard raid has small chance to drop weapon on MVP and host platinum chest, and expert raid has bigger chance to drop weapon on MVP and host platinum chest.

    i do not want to use own grid as example because there easily players out there with much better grid already and doing monster damage. but for example anyway i attached. please notice that there are many SR lightning weapon, which drop from Lightning Disaster raid. when i start playing Kamihime, my luck was ok but i do not reroll for better start. i have 1 SSR which is Ouroboros eidolon. 0 SSR weapon or Kamihime.

    my current team is lightning MC, 2 lightning SR, 1 lightning R, and Beelzebub. 4 thunder characters, but it change depending on enemy. example, for Lightning Disaster Expert, i change lightning R character to Cybelle instead because she have element advantage to debuff boss ATK/DEF.

    2x Ouroboros for 80% lightning dmg bonus from aura
    weapon skill stack is only currently 7.5 + 6.5 + 4 + 2 + 1 = 21% ATK bonus from weapon skill

    right now my chain burst for about 130k in raids, highest was 160k vs Water Expert raid

    with lightning focus, right now i can solo all expert raids except Wind Disaster Expert due to element disadvantage. but my point here is, if i split my farming and work on fire grid instead since it has advantage to Wind Disaster, by now i still won't be able to solo Wind Disaster anyway, and then i won't be able to solo any of the other Expert raid either.

    this way, since i guarantee MVP on my own expert raids, as well as MVP other people raids more easily, it mean more SR fodder to raise skill level faster, and more Lightning SR weapon from Lightning Disaster Expert.

    let's talk about progression. if i add 1 more axe to grid with slv4 weapon skill, my ATK bonus rise to 25%. if i add 1 more axe again, it rise to 29%. and that % keeps going higher and higher the more weapon skill slv u can stack in your grid.

    my current limitation is AP regen, since we are saving the AP pot for event, and also raid is bad for rank points to level rank, so it always choice between raid for more chance at SR weapon, or 5-4 for faster rank up.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Ringabel View Post
    not true, lot of progression is from farming SR weapons from raid boss. since u decide what u want to spend ur ap and bp on, you can focus 1 element with that too. each standard raid has small chance to drop weapon on MVP and host platinum chest, and expert raid has bigger chance to drop weapon on MVP and host platinum chest.

    i do not want to use own grid as example because there easily players out there with much better grid already and doing monster damage. but for example anyway i attached. please notice that there are many SR lightning weapon, which drop from Lightning Disaster raid. when i start playing Kamihime, my luck was ok but i do not reroll for better start. i have 1 SSR which is Ouroboros eidolon. 0 SSR weapon or Kamihime.

    my current team is lightning MC, 2 lightning SR, 1 lightning R, and Beelzebub. 4 thunder characters, but it change depending on enemy. example, for Lightning Disaster Expert, i change lightning R character to Cybelle instead because she have element advantage to debuff boss ATK/DEF.

    2x Ouroboros for 80% lightning dmg bonus from aura
    weapon skill stack is only currently 7.5 + 6.5 + 4 + 2 + 1 = 21% ATK bonus from weapon skill

    right now my chain burst for about 130k in raids, highest was 160k vs Water Expert raid

    with lightning focus, right now i can solo all expert raids except Wind Disaster Expert due to element disadvantage. but my point here is, if i split my farming and work on fire grid instead since it has advantage to Wind Disaster, by now i still won't be able to solo Wind Disaster anyway, and then i won't be able to solo any of the other Expert raid either.

    this way, since i guarantee MVP on my own expert raids, as well as MVP other people raids more easily, it mean more SR fodder to raise skill level faster, and more Lightning SR weapon from Lightning Disaster Expert.

    let's talk about progression. if i add 1 more axe to grid with slv4 weapon skill, my ATK bonus rise to 25%. if i add 1 more axe again, it rise to 29%. and that % keeps going higher and higher the more weapon skill slv u can stack in your grid.

    my current limitation is AP regen, since we are saving the AP pot for event, and also raid is bad for rank points to level rank, so it always choice between raid for more chance at SR weapon, or 5-4 for faster rank up.
    This post is SUPER helpful, thank you so much.

    Right now I've got a team with Beelzebub, Amon and Brynhildr as my best SR himes and I have a Fire Hammer SR weapon. If I understand your post correctly, I would do best to just farm the Expert Fire Raid Boss until I can get full slots of the Fire Hammer, correct?

    Also, as I'm still pretty weak overall, when is it better to farm a stage like 5-4 instead of using the AP for the Raid Boss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringabel View Post
    not true, lot of progression is from farming SR weapons from raid boss. since u decide what u want to spend ur ap and bp on, you can focus 1 element with that too. each standard raid has small chance to drop weapon on MVP and host platinum chest, and expert raid has bigger chance to drop weapon on MVP and host platinum chest.

    i do not want to use own grid as example because there easily players out there with much better grid already and doing monster damage. but for example anyway i attached. please notice that there are many SR lightning weapon, which drop from Lightning Disaster raid. when i start playing Kamihime, my luck was ok but i do not reroll for better start. i have 1 SSR which is Ouroboros eidolon. 0 SSR weapon or Kamihime.

    my current team is lightning MC, 2 lightning SR, 1 lightning R, and Beelzebub. 4 thunder characters, but it change depending on enemy. example, for Lightning Disaster Expert, i change lightning R character to Cybelle instead because she have element advantage to debuff boss ATK/DEF.

    2x Ouroboros for 80% lightning dmg bonus from aura
    weapon skill stack is only currently 7.5 + 6.5 + 4 + 2 + 1 = 21% ATK bonus from weapon skill

    right now my chain burst for about 130k in raids, highest was 160k vs Water Expert raid

    with lightning focus, right now i can solo all expert raids except Wind Disaster Expert due to element disadvantage. but my point here is, if i split my farming and work on fire grid instead since it has advantage to Wind Disaster, by now i still won't be able to solo Wind Disaster anyway, and then i won't be able to solo any of the other Expert raid either.

    this way, since i guarantee MVP on my own expert raids, as well as MVP other people raids more easily, it mean more SR fodder to raise skill level faster, and more Lightning SR weapon from Lightning Disaster Expert.

    let's talk about progression. if i add 1 more axe to grid with slv4 weapon skill, my ATK bonus rise to 25%. if i add 1 more axe again, it rise to 29%. and that % keeps going higher and higher the more weapon skill slv u can stack in your grid.

    my current limitation is AP regen, since we are saving the AP pot for event, and also raid is bad for rank points to level rank, so it always choice between raid for more chance at SR weapon, or 5-4 for faster rank up.
    This is really helpful, thank you. If I had a thunderbird I'm almost certain this is what I'd be doing. Sadly, I've yet to obtain an Eidolon stronger than Diabolos from the Gacha, RIP. If there's a decent SSR summon with the first event I might have to focus that element just for lack of any other damage boost available. That being said, my only SSR is Shiva, so it'd be nice if it was a water summon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VortexMagus View Post
    This is really helpful, thank you. If I had a thunderbird I'm almost certain this is what I'd be doing. Sadly, I've yet to obtain an Eidolon stronger than Diabolos from the Gacha, RIP. If there's a decent SSR summon with the first event I might have to focus that element just for lack of any other damage boost available. That being said, my only SSR is Shiva, so it'd be nice if it was a water summon...
    The first event unit is a dark SSR Eidolon, Apcoalypse. She boosts dark and fire damage. You won't see a water event Eidolon til the 5th event. This is assuming Nutaku stays on the same track.
    Last edited by Aidoru; 02-19-2017 at 06:08 PM.

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    I can't remember if I read this in the news section or discord channel, the original dev team are the ones working on nutaku's version, so the release and events will probably be in the same order.

    What I'm focusing on is the next challenge, and as a consequence my strongest team is thunder, with light a little behind. But I'm developing all of my teams and each can solo the standard raid bosses they're specialized for, and getting closer to expert. To those of you fixated on inflating a handful of numbers, numbers also add up laterally, and coordinating skillsets from available options is more effective, not to mention less mindnumbing, than a pursuit of the slightly bigger sword.

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    some other note about 1 element focus:

    1- sunday SP quest is too good. i advice for not use any AP at all on hosting raid on sunday and especially try to save up for 1h quest for weapon and eidolon XP angels.

    2- i think it not accurate to say u can choose ur element. it more likely the game choose element for u depending on ur starting rolls and upcoming event schedule. but the information provided hopefully help u to make a better decision.

    3- weapon, kamihime and eidolon grid is not everything. u still need good strategy to defeat bosses, meaning understanding the game mechanics, mitigation, debuff stack, buff stack, chain burst, how to manage boss ougi and rage meter, when to use free super pot, how to choose and when to use eidolon active ability, and so on. there many related point to good strategy that can make dozens of post, so maybe later.

    4- u will have periods of bad rng streak and no progression for days, killing dozens of boss in a row with no weapon drop. this game can make u cry a few times. then other time u get many in a short duration. just remain focused and keep grinding. most gbf player know this as magna grind but their rate is even lower because they are going for SSR version of current Kamihime Project SR weapon grind.

    right now i have 6 atk skill axe drop, 5 hp skill sword drop, 4 hp skill staff drop. i use 4 sword and 4 staff to make full uncap weapon which increase burst damage when used as mh, and it good stat stick. last sword became skill fodder. all these 15 weapon drop was from 50+ leech and host expert raids in 10 days. the drop rate is not good. just a warning.

    5- that 130k burst is in raid situation when boss have double defense debuff applied. in most solo situation i chain burst for 100k, not 130k. just so u dont think i am superman.

    6- regardless what i say about stacking single element for weapon skill, remember that raw stat is also important so any ssr u have currently is very useful regardless element for starting. if u have any SSR weapon or kamihime, cool, u r already luckier than me. remember from the xiei gbf progression guide ver alpha

    Good Jobs for the MC
    +
    Good Characters for your team
    +
    A relevant Main Summon for your team
    +
    Useful Sub Summons for your team
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    High base stat weapons for your Weapon Grid
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    High level Weapon Skills for Weapon Grid
    =
    Everything you need to get stronger
    7- i attach screenshot of soloing Lightning Disaster boss using my lightning team with Cybelle swap-in to prove i am not bullshitting. but honestly there are no reason to completely solo. u just need mvp, or at the start at least vice mvp. that is the short term goal for faster loot generation. solo is longer-term goal in case no one joins ur raid, but this doesn't seem problem in Kamihime Project.

    8- eventually after ur primary element is nearing maximum potential u want a second element to cover the weakness of 1st, preferable light or dark. however this is just to keep in mind and is bonus whenever u get weapon or eidolon or kamihime etc. that will support this secondary element or elements in future.

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterE View Post
    But I'm developing all of my teams and each can solo the standard raid bosses they're specialized for, and getting closer to expert. To those of you fixated on inflating a handful of numbers, numbers also add up laterally, and coordinating skillsets from available options is more effective,
    like i mention, i am not telling you how to play. i think it ur turn to misunderstand because stacking 1 element does not mean 1 team for everything. example above, for above Lightning Disaster i use Cybelle instead of 4th Lightning character, because Cybelle can land her debuff almost 100% effectively on lightning enemy. even when playing 1 element u still changing composition around for best effectiveness vs any enemy and any element. the point is the base has the biggest impact before u modify for additional advantages.

    if u can get and manage 35 or 40% atk aura for main and friend eidolon all the time for all 6 element, u are god and i kowtow, haha.

    not to mention less mindnumbing, than a pursuit of the slightly bigger sword.
    u absolutely right here. magna grind is ass shit boring.
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    Soo... in the first thread it suggested that focusing on light isn't reccomended for beginners and that it's also later mentioned that there's not much SSR Eidolon that gives Light element buff...

    But at this point, i feel like i don't have much options aside from going for Light element. From the First draw, i got sol and 2 (yes 2) moonlight bow (for Artemis), which isn't bad.... in my opinion, so i kept going with it. then later, with the next 10 draw (after doing most of the quests), i got another moonlight bow.... and not another SR kamihime, ( well there's some other SR Eidolon, but that's beside the point). And just earlier today, after completing the third beginner's quest (and got an SR guaranteed ticket) guess what? Another moonlight bow....... (grand total of 4, and no other SR Kamihime)....

    So at this point, should i just keep going and focus on light ? or should i just reroll and hope to get sol and something again ? :/

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    Work with what you have, especially with the first event starting up tomorrow or so. The sort of advice given about 'this element is better than that' assumes that you are in a state where you can make choices. They don't apply early on when what one has to work with amounts to so little.

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    u got 2 choices

    1- focus on light, meaning start leveling and raising weapon skill for light weapons. if nutaku follow same event schedule, next event has great light eidolon and weapon to start with, and pull gacha there. i think problem with light is not enough guaranteed or easy obtain Kamihime, not eidolon or weapon.

    2- undecided yet, instead of raising weapon skill on light weapon, just level raw stats on everything and see what happen in future.

    but realistically, that is more of long term goal and whether u choose 1 or 2 u still going to be doing lot of the other for now to get stronger. so i would not worry and just keep raising everything. example, if u have extra R weapon u can use it to skill ur bows now, no need to stock it for different element.

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    elaboration- with sol and artemis u have heals and burst. if u work towards good balance for team. my advise is aim for Mordred for ur first Legendary Soul. Mordred ability raise chance of debuff application, and then first ability applies ATK/DEF debuff and lot of DOT. combined with Sol ATK debuff which stack it, and then Black Propaganda which make boss ougi less often, ur team will take much lesser damage from hard bosses, and Sol can heal for a lot and remove boss buff.

    if u decide to switch elements, Mordred can switch to new element with different weapon, and the combination with Sol is still effective. It does not matter if Sol does not get benefit from new element because her usefulness is atk debuff, heal and dispel boss, not necessary damage. other party member can do damage.

    if u decide to play light for now, u could farm Light Prison for the SR sword for Mordred to use as mainhand for light element, although how long before it drop is up to ur luck. or just wait for light event.
    Last edited by Ringabel; 02-21-2017 at 08:25 PM.

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    What time is the upgrade material SP quest?
    I had encountered it 2 times in a certain time bracket, but ever since i couldn't find that quest again even after visiting it on the same time bracket that i had first encountered :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    What time is the upgrade material SP quest?
    I had encountered it 2 times in a certain time bracket, but ever since i couldn't find that quest again even after visiting it on the same time bracket that i had first encountered :/
    I might be wrong on this but I think it's on sundays only.

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