Thread: Kamihime Project R has had rape content censored in the Nutaku release

Originally Posted by Ramazan

And i do support you. Im just too tired atm to reply all the dudes at above. People just dont know what they're really defending.
Its not a right thing to have such fantazies also.

WAKE UP, your waifu doesn't exist, they are fucking drawings. You don't know what you're saying, just moralizing like a priest. Don't watch violent movies, it's morally wrong! Come on... If you have trouble distinguishing reality from fiction it's your problem, you know? By the way, I listen that going forward the scenes are almost all vanilla, so your imaginary wives will be safeguarded, are you satisfied now?

Originally Posted by Mattress

WAKE UP, your waifu doesn't exist, they are fucking drawings. You don't know what you're saying, just moralizing like a priest. Don't watch violent movies, it's morally wrong! Come on... If you have trouble distinguishing reality from fiction it's your problem, you know? By the way, I listen that going forward the scenes are almost all vanilla, so your imaginary wives will be safeguarded, are you satisfied now?

Well o_O i support the idea of that they're drawing, imaginary characters and not should be taken seriously. I also dont understand noone of the guys above, do i have to think same with you o_O im not a priest or something lmao, cant be atheist a moral person?? (im not an atheist too tho) Humans are untrusted and uncontrollable, if you watch/enjoy from rape/bestiality/guro stuff there's no guarantee that you wont do the same irl, its okay if you do enjoy these kinds of stuff irl too there's no need to argue with you. My argument is with the ones that dislike the rape/bestiality stuff irl but enjoys watching it in fictionary world o_O also it'd be better if you guys keep your tone civilized .__. we're here for fun right? and socialize. There's no gain for you if you keep bashing my head

Originally Posted by Ramazan

Well o_O i support the idea of that they're drawing, imaginary characters and not should be taken seriously. I also dont understand noone of the guys above, do i have to think same with you o_O im not a priest or something lmao, cant be atheist a moral person?? (im not an atheist too tho) Humans are untrusted and uncontrollable, if you watch/enjoy from rape/bestiality/guro stuff there's no guarantee that you wont do the same irl, its okay if you do enjoy these kinds of stuff irl too there's no need to argue with you. My argument is with the ones that dislike the rape/bestiality stuff irl but enjoys watching it in fictionary world o_O also it'd be better if you guys keep your tone civilized .__. we're here for fun right? and socialize. There's no gain for you if you keep bashing my head

There are different genres precisely to meet the tastes of all kind of people, in the world we are not all equal. I respect your opinion and your tastes but if you want chensorship in the scenes you don't like it then I disagree. Maybe there were too many scenes of a certain type and the game initially aimed only on a part of users, would have been sufficient to make the ratio more balanced between vanilla scenes and other genres IMHO, that's all. I'm sorry if I sounded aggressive, I didn't mean to insult you earlier.

Originally Posted by Ramazan

if you watch/enjoy from rape/bestiality/guro stuff there's no guarantee that you wont do the same irl

And there's no guarantee that if you DON'T watch/enjoy rape/bestiality/guro that you won't do the same in real life. Your argument is Trumpian: that is, implying negative consequences based on a gut feeling with no actual justification. If you'd like to present objective evidence or a logical argument to back your claims, however, feel free.

As long as Nutaku bring us clear images were the poor japanese user see mosaics -wish they would do the same with Peropero-, and whatever change they make helps reinforcing the idea that eroge fans are not perturbed morons with a penis in the place of brain, I won't raise a torch against a so-called censorship.

Probably they need a bit of deeper work on translation to avoid unconsistences, but anyways, unexact scripts -more based in global story context than propper translation- are old friends of western publishers of manga/anime.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

And there's no guarantee that if you DON'T watch/enjoy rape/bestiality/guro that you won't do the same in real life. Your argument is Trumpian: that is, implying negative consequences based on a gut feeling with no actual justification. If you'd like to present objective evidence or a logical argument to back your claims, however, feel free.

The whole thread is pointless, not helping to community you know that? I mean more than ninety percent wouldnt mind few words being changed cuz bgr suffering so much of it but people still playing it nevertheless and they only care about if devs gonna release next event or not. You're obviously missing the whole point of these games, people not living in it like you.

As for my argument, lets say im wrong, how do you think you'll prove yours? Your behaviours and this thread feels like you're using your jap knowledge as a boasting material. Dunno why i involved in the first place, maybe too much free time.

You don't seem to understand where I'm coming from. I didn't come here to fight censorship. Neither did I create this topic because I'm bored. It just so happens that I'm an anti-censorship advocate, and that the game I've been playing was stealthily censored, and therefore I'm obligated to spread the word about it. I've been doing this for a while, long before I'd ever heard of this game, or even before Nutaku existed. In addition, I've been going back and forth with Nutaku about this for a while now, and they failed to live up to their promises to me and others to disclose future alterations.

As for my argument, lets say im wrong, how do you think you'll prove yours?

What is my argument? Or what do you think it is? I'm curious.

Your behaviours and this thread feels like you're using your jap knowledge as a boasting material.

'I know you are but what am I?' Can't you argue without questioning people's motivations?

I'm more annoyed by the lack of spaces between a lot of the text and general badness of the translation than anything else.

Seriously though, the lack of spaces infuriates me.

Originally Posted by BigBobs

I'm more annoyed by the lack of spaces between a lot of the text and general badness of the translation than anything else.

Seriously though, the lack of spaces infuriates me.

The spacing issues are a problem, but the translation itself seems above average compared to what I've seen in other Nutaku titles (minus the edits, which are awful). The Japanese script itself isn't very good though. Storytelling is not this game's strength.

In addition, the game appears to be following the original event schedule and using the updated system / engine. There's a level of technical competence, effort, and polish in the English release which seems to be lacking in the other Nutaku titles I've played.

Originally Posted by BigBobs

I'm more annoyed by the lack of spaces between a lot of the text and general badness of the translation than anything else.

Seriously though, the lack of spaces infuriates me.

This appears to be a formatting issue rather than a typo issue. If you actually look in the text logs you find that it doesn't have this problem because the two words are separated by a line break. A little quality control would go a long way in their text department.

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Regardless of my opinion on the specific content being censored, I believe it's healthy for consumers to regularly challenge companies on decisions they make (for both sides).

Forcing them to regularly consider the ramifications of their actions is healthy, and allows a more balanced consideration of their choices. Forcing them to take a clear stand and define their limits is much better for consumers, and by challenging them on harder to defend positions like these prevent them from superfluously skipping over or disregarding other content.

The biggest issue consumers have with companies is transparency, and Nutaku has consistently avoided taking a clear stance on censorship and frequently contradict themselves. Dragging these discussions/arguments to light is a good thing. Companies without clear values or ones that contradict their values tend to have the most morally suspect behavior, at no specific fault of the employees.

I don't believe that anyone, on either side of the argument, wants to have no input into Nutaku's choices and simply follow whatever they choose.