Thread: Kamihime Project R has had rape content censored in the Nutaku release

Originally Posted by nazrin992

I think Rosen also got hit with line changes.

Who is "Rosen"?

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Who is "Rosen"?

Rosenkreuz, I guess.

Quality is what matters, censored or not, these games like nearly all retail games are pimped/whored out by various industries to fans/users/players/people for recreation, fictional recreation, and are seldom a creation of one "artist" or "artistic group" that would themselves take umbrage at any censoring, but instead a commercial effort that seeks a profitable franchise.

I think this thread is a pure attempt to hype the OP's blog content and himself, whether that has any good effect on game content is the real point, i don't mind or see much improvement from his "consumer advocacy" imho, but wtf do i know, i just hope it does improve some game's fictional quality.

Originally Posted by NoIDs

Quality is what matters

What is "quality"?

TBH if they'd stayed truer to the original theme I'd be more interested to see where they take it - so no it's a real issue, in part because they've done and in part because it's been done so badly. Couple that with a high time commitment and I've decided I don't want to support this game - in fact I'm not gonna bother coming back onto the forums - so that's a potential paying customer lost as I've sunk probably near $100 into FKG over the near year I've been playing....minnow level support but, how many people like me have left or will leave?

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

What is "quality"?

I didn't mean to thank him for his post so you can ignore that, misclicked.

His usage of 'quality' may as well be changed to 'my opinion'.

Censored games come out all the time and most people don't have many options. Unless you can read Japanese, you are either forced to not buy/play it or play the shitty censored version. No body wants a game they're looking forward to censored, no matter how little it is. If the developers/localizers wanted it to be a properly profitable series in the first place, they wouldn't be doing the opposite of what the consumers want.

Personally, I don't see DMM games being better other than having more benefits than Nutaku

eh, I could be wrong. Im not a smart guy to begin with

I don't know

A) play DMM in the first place
B) it's also censored, too with mosaic pixelation - that's why I play Nutaku games - both Nutaku and DMM are censored in some way, just pick wut you preferred
C) pay for DMM games if I actually get into it
D) read Japanese

I'm not going to post more in this thread since I dislike the OP creator for the reasons NOIDs mention personally no offense, I hate folks who promote their blogs in another forum site for user traffic (their blog/social media isn't enuff to attract readers on their own and be all preachy at the same time especially w/ censorship (notice a lot of ass kissing w/ the anons which seem fishy as hell)

and causing everyone gets toxic to each other instead of accepting people have different strokes when it comes to it

who knows maybe, Nutaku or another company will take over Nutaku and deliver "uncensored games" or actually mention what's uncensored

I doubt it since businesses and laws are really complicated I guess

this comes from a dude who used to live in Canada where Hentai and porn are really restricted when you come into the country

wut can you do? fans, laws, businesses don't mix well

Edit:

I'm not against folks who support or not support censorship

I just hate folks like sanahtlig profiting from promoting his shit in other forum sites so he can traffic for his blogs to make $ off folks

Originally Posted by NoIDs

Quality is what matters, censored or not

And this post actually brought me from lurkerdom to creating a handle so I can comment non-anon.

Yes, quality matters, and that's why censorship matters as well. Nutaku said they would inform their customers if a title was censored. They did not with Kamihime. To make matters worse, the censorship is very sloppy and hamhanded. It's like duct taping a broken chair leg and then trying to sell that chair as new with the big, glaring silvery strip there. The very least they could have done was be upfront about it, then do it well. So, to keep on with the analogy, the quality of the fix affects the quality of the whole. I don't mind if something is fixed well (screws, woodglue, seamless repairs), but I say nay to duct tape.

If you're going to censor, for whatever reason, be up front about it. Don't try and pretend it isn't there. Those who know Japanese WILL call the company out on it.

Might as well add the scenes that I've seen censored:
Second Cronus scene
Astaroth have about 2 lines that seem out of place
Nergal's last line in her scene.

Originally Posted by HungryHunter

notice a lot of ass kissing w/ the anons which seem fishy as hell

Let's examine this, which seems to be an accusation that I'm posting anonymously to create an illusion of support for this. This is essentially saying, "There's *no way* that this many people could hold a view I disagree with. The support must be fabricated." Can't you see the folly of such a claim? What is this based on, other than faith that you're right, and everyone agrees you're right? Does this line up with the number of forum regulars who've spoken out against this thread vs. those who've showed support? I can't see such claims as anything other than mean-spirited spite intended to put down someone else. Adding "personally no offense" doesn't make a personal attack inoffensive. You're calling me out, implying that I'm doing something shady--with no basis whatsoever--and then trying to appear that you're being evenhanded. Sorry, you're not being evenhanded or inoffensive. You're just being a hypocrite.

and causing everyone gets toxic to each other instead of accepting people have different strokes when it comes to it

That's all you. Not me. I set out to conduct this thread without engaging in personal attacks, but that doesn't excuse you to say whatever you want. Stay on topic and avoid the personal attacks. Thanks.

As for where the so-called stream of anons is coming from, the thread was linked on 4chan (not by me ). They hate censorship and had their fun mocking some of the posters in this thread. I also linked the thread on my Twitter account before I posted the article on my blog. So there you go. There's nothing 'shady' going on here. It just so happens that more people care more than you thought. Where I come from, those who support censorship are the outliers, not those who oppose it.