Thread: Vortex's brief opinion guide to each SSR kamihime in the game.

Originally Posted by Azumish

I think you're mistaking paralysis with increased stun duration. Thor is the only kh who does paralysis right now. Paralysis is like dizzy, but with a 100% chance they miss their turn from what I've seen. Also, Beelzebub doesn't cause any boss debuffs.

Huh? So Belphegor's Paralyzer and Huanglong's eidolon attack are different from paralysis? Ugh, mistranslations. I'll correct myself, then, my bad. That skill is better than I thought it was.

Its kind of annoying we don't have an explanation for each status effect, some of them are incredibly unclear. According to the description, hallucination (from cybele) should also cause the boss to skip a turn, but it doesn't always seem to happen.

Originally Posted by VortexMagus

Huh? So Belphegor's Paralyzer and Huanglong's eidolon attack are different from paralysis? Ugh, mistranslations. I'll correct myself, then, my bad. That skill is better than I thought it was.

Its kind of annoying we don't have an explanation for each status effect, some of them are incredibly unclear. According to the description, hallucination (from cybele) should also cause the boss to skip a turn, but it doesn't always seem to happen.

Belphegor's attack isn't "mistranslated" so much as "not translated"; the difference between the skill and the status effect 'paralyze' is lost in translation. A careful translator would've changed the skill name to avoid confusion.

The Hallucination description is a mistranslation of the JP, though the JP is unclear also. It's a status effect applied to Cybele that nullifies enemy attacks (the JP description says 'nullifies the attacks of all enemies'--not the same as disabling them!); presumably it only works if she's targeted. Nutaku also fails to convey which skills target the group and which target the entire raid. This is an issue introduced by them that didn't exist in the original JP.

Some of these problems are just careless mistakes, but others result from hiring translators that don't play the game and don't understand the mechanics, and therefore don't know how to properly convey them. Good translators don't just translate; they clarify when needed to get the intended message across. In some cases, that means rewriting.

Originally Posted by Gisborn

just wondering... why are we re-rating the stars.... the himes got 5 stars have their reasons... she might not good in every team but if in a good spot they will perform well enough...and let say...even though u had all 5 stars but scrambled elements i still think u gonna have a bad time

Consider it as a tierlist more than a rarity list.

SSR pull rate is low, sure. But it doesn't mean that their power should not be divided into layers of tiers.
In any given game that is not chess or checkers and you're allowed to choose characters or varying inherent abilities, tier list will always exist to show which of the characters simply perform better in most situations over the others.


One example being a comparison of two light element SSRs, Sol and the upcoming Raphael for example.
If you use the JP wiki (which I can't friggin post a link here), you'll notice that she is worse than Sol in pretty much every category except Max ATK stat with 370 more stat points than Sol.

Originally Posted by VortexMagus

Its kind of annoying we don't have an explanation for each status effect

http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Combat_Mechanics

+ Thor's paralysis which isnt listed for some reason. Boss unable to act for 15sec

Originally Posted by Inb4whales

Consider it as a tierlist more than a rarity list.

SSR pull rate is low, sure. But it doesn't mean that their power should not be divided into layers of tiers.
In any given game that is not chess or checkers and you're allowed to choose characters or varying inherent abilities, tier list will always exist to show which of the characters simply perform better in most situations over the others.


One example being a comparison of two light element SSRs, Sol and the upcoming Raphael for example.
If you use the JP wiki (which I can't friggin post a link here), you'll notice that she is worse than Sol in pretty much every category except Max ATK stat with 370 more stat points than Sol.

A tier list, exactly. I'm not re-starring them, I'm rating how good they are compared to other SSRs. Of course they'll be better than most SRs of the same color just by virtue of having higher stats, a level 4 burst ability, and a higher level cap.

Hey man gj writing up your narrative. I like the tier list and looking forward to your SR tier list.

One way to make this better is if you can include the SSR that are going to be introduced to the game in short time(like next 2 events or sth)

I am sure everybody will be happy.

Side question: What do you think is the worst SSR/SR in the game>?

Originally Posted by Inb4whales

Consider it as a tierlist more than a rarity list.

It feels more like a wishlist for rerollers than a tier list. If I ever get an SSR kamihime, it will be the best one I have.

Originally Posted by Inb4whales

One example being a comparison of two light element SSRs, Sol and the upcoming Raphael for example.
If you use the JP wiki (which I can't friggin post a link here), you'll notice that she is worse than Sol in pretty much every category except Max ATK stat with 370 more stat points than Sol.

What are Raphael's stats and moves?

Originally Posted by Losticus

What are Raphael's stats and moves?

This is the translated wiki page of Raphael. The third ability apparently meant that it deals light damage and reduces the target's orb charge bar by 1.


Edit:
Vortex, would it help clear the confusion if you rename the "star" into letters "S, A+, A, B, etc"?

Originally Posted by BlackNov

Hey man gj writing up your narrative. I like the tier list and looking forward to your SR tier list.

One way to make this better is if you can include the SSR that are going to be introduced to the game in short time(like next 2 events or sth)

I am sure everybody will be happy.

Side question: What do you think is the worst SSR/SR in the game>?

All the SSR are legitimately good. Even the worst one (at the moment I'd probably pick Satan) is still good.

Some of the SR, however, are legitimately terrible. For example, Agni is trash tier for all none-fire teams - some rares are better than she is. Also not a big fan of a lot of the wind SRs that only have mediocre single target damage, like Cronus and Hermod and the rest.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Inb4whales

Vortex, would it help clear the confusion if you rename the "star" into letters "S, A+, A, B, etc"?

This is probably a good idea... just feeling too lazy at the moment to do it. May change it later lol...