Thread: Vortex's brief opinion guide to each SSR kamihime in the game.

just wondering... why are we re-rating the stars.... the himes got 5 stars have their reasons... she might not good in every team but if in a good spot they will perform well enough...and let say...even though u had all 5 stars but scrambled elements i still think u gonna have a bad time

No SSR are comparable to SR, some SSR have awakening in JP version and their stats increase a LOT (and new illustration cool!)

Originally Posted by Gisborn

just wondering... why are we re-rating the stars.... the himes got 5 stars have their reasons... she might not good in every team but if in a good spot they will perform well enough...and let say...even though u had all 5 stars but scrambled elements i still think u gonna have a bad time

Consider it as a tierlist more than a rarity list.

SSR pull rate is low, sure. But it doesn't mean that their power should not be divided into layers of tiers.
In any given game that is not chess or checkers and you're allowed to choose characters or varying inherent abilities, tier list will always exist to show which of the characters simply perform better in most situations over the others.


One example being a comparison of two light element SSRs, Sol and the upcoming Raphael for example.
If you use the JP wiki (which I can't friggin post a link here), you'll notice that she is worse than Sol in pretty much every category except Max ATK stat with 370 more stat points than Sol.

Originally Posted by Inb4whales

Consider it as a tierlist more than a rarity list.

SSR pull rate is low, sure. But it doesn't mean that their power should not be divided into layers of tiers.
In any given game that is not chess or checkers and you're allowed to choose characters or varying inherent abilities, tier list will always exist to show which of the characters simply perform better in most situations over the others.


One example being a comparison of two light element SSRs, Sol and the upcoming Raphael for example.
If you use the JP wiki (which I can't friggin post a link here), you'll notice that she is worse than Sol in pretty much every category except Max ATK stat with 370 more stat points than Sol.

A tier list, exactly. I'm not re-starring them, I'm rating how good they are compared to other SSRs. Of course they'll be better than most SRs of the same color just by virtue of having higher stats, a level 4 burst ability, and a higher level cap.

Hey man gj writing up your narrative. I like the tier list and looking forward to your SR tier list.

One way to make this better is if you can include the SSR that are going to be introduced to the game in short time(like next 2 events or sth)

I am sure everybody will be happy.

Side question: What do you think is the worst SSR/SR in the game>?

Originally Posted by BlackNov

Hey man gj writing up your narrative. I like the tier list and looking forward to your SR tier list.

One way to make this better is if you can include the SSR that are going to be introduced to the game in short time(like next 2 events or sth)

I am sure everybody will be happy.

Side question: What do you think is the worst SSR/SR in the game>?

All the SSR are legitimately good. Even the worst one (at the moment I'd probably pick Satan) is still good.

Some of the SR, however, are legitimately terrible. For example, Agni is trash tier for all none-fire teams - some rares are better than she is. Also not a big fan of a lot of the wind SRs that only have mediocre single target damage, like Cronus and Hermod and the rest.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Inb4whales

Vortex, would it help clear the confusion if you rename the "star" into letters "S, A+, A, B, etc"?

This is probably a good idea... just feeling too lazy at the moment to do it. May change it later lol...

Originally Posted by VortexMagus

For example, Agni is trash tier for all none-fire teams - some rares are better than she is.

Wow... I really cant understand whether you are trolling or serious. Medium atk increase that is unique to this hime only (in SR tier) and stacks together with all other atk buffs on entire party, combined with dmg output of weaker SSR hime... Yeah, sure, its garbage, throw it away for some R-tier piece of trash.
And "garbage for any non-fire team" is not an argument: 90% of all hime across all tiers and elements are "garbage to non-theirelement team"

Originally Posted by felix

Wow... I really cant understand whether you are trolling or serious

ye i had the same reaction when i saw this. I mean, this post has a lot of approximation in it, but this one was priceless.
Agni trash tier... jesus...

Originally Posted by felix

90% of all hime across all tiers and elements are "garbage to non-theirelement team"

I think this important truth was lost somewhere in this discussion. In the end, everyone has to work with the draws they get, and the single most important factor is whether you can assemble a decent single-element team, hopefully with at least one healer and one debuffer. Everything else is secondary.

There's a few kamihime (generally healers or debuffers) that are useful in any team regardless of element. If you score one of them, great. Otherwise, your team composition choices are probably going to be very limited. In my view, this thread is something of a re-roller's guide, and a mere curiosity to anyone else--a chance to learn about kamihime and skills you'll never encounter or need to know about.

Originally Posted by Inb4whales

Consider it as a tierlist more than a rarity list.

It feels more like a wishlist for rerollers than a tier list. If I ever get an SSR kamihime, it will be the best one I have.