Thread: Competition: Propose the best realistic team

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

You seem to have missed the point of this thread--which is to show players how to make do with what they'll get from typical play in the first few months--without exploits, and without buying monopoly money. There's nothing 'misleading' about the thread because it makes no claims at all.

I don't miss the point.

You know how many people were fucked on japanese server after 5-6 months grinding raids pushing their weapons max , until they have realised that all the time were wasted, because one SSR was missing, which made the difference?!
They were forced to buy the "choose the SSR you want ticket", if they want to keep the old acc. You couldn't make any further progress cleaning ultimate and Ragnarok contents.
If you really want to play this game reaching high top level without spending a cent, then you need to focus on a single team since beginning.
If you just play for fun and may get bored after few weeks, then you don't really give a fuck about tactics and team setup at all....just choose the harem for fapping.

I guess this thread is for long term players, so I need to point this out, that the SRs would be enough. Don't forget the fact, that good SRs are also gasha only. If u want to get a specific SR, you need to reroll...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I don't miss the point.

You know how many people were fucked on japanese server after 5-6 months grinding raids pushing their weapons max , until they have realised that all the time were wasted, because one SSR was missing, which made the difference?!
They were forced to buy the "choose the SSR you want ticket", if they want to keep the old acc.

So you're saying a F2P dev made the game harder once people had deeply committed to the game to promote its cash shop?! I never would've expected this from companies like DMM and Nutaku!

...I think we all know that games like this are designed to exploit their players. I do appreciate your insights as a DMM veteran, but I think you're preaching to the wrong crowd in the wrong thread. The sort of message you're pushing belongs in an FAQ thread or something, where it might actually be seen. Or perhaps the reroller/exploits thread, since that's what you're advocating.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

So you're saying a F2P dev made the game harder once people had deeply committed to the game to promote its cash shop?! I never would've expected this from companies like DMM and Nutaku!

...I think we all know that games like this are designed to exploit their players. I do appreciate your insights as a DMM veteran, but I think you're preaching to the wrong crowd in the wrong thread. The sort of message you're pushing belongs in an FAQ thread or something, where it might actually be seen. Or perhaps the reroller/exploits thread, since that's what you're advocating.

Sorry. I'm not veteran. I just started the game 2 weeks ago. This is the first place I came to get some info about the game, so I could get some useful info. I spend some money for the devs to support them, but I'm not a whale who doesn't care about money. I'm always aiming for endgame content or at least being competitive to do the same thing, what all the whales could do.
I don't like the feeling, if I have keep playing a game for months, then I realize, oh, shit, my account is not able to anything at ultimate and ragnarok level or solo advent bosses. Then try the luck get pull specific SSRs from gasha with that little chance?! lol, That's the stupidest thing, you could do.
After reading posts from veteran Asian players (more than 1 year experiences) and gathering details about the game mechanics. I know that my current account is shit, even I have spent more than 100 euro on it. The SSRs I got from the granted tickets aren't worth, but I'm still keep playing this account, because with the miracle ticket, I will still be able to build a decent team for endgame, the only thing is that I need to spend more money. If I start with a better account, I don't need spend money (or just a little) and can reach the same goal.
That is a failure what I did, so I'm telling others: You can be prepared for future content right now!

Tell me what's the sense discuss about SRs, which won't help you to clear any hard contents. At the end there was only one tip useful: It doesn't matter, which SRs you are using, just upgrade the weapons and everything is fine.
There are 2 parts of the this game.
1 Part: You can do it, once your SR weapons are maxed. For this part, you don't need team-setup.
2 Part: You need specific SSR, otherwise no chance. You could keep farm your SR or SSR weapons, but you won't get better. then you may think, oh, I should start the game with some better advices.

So i take my time and translate and share all details and game mechanics which I got from Chinese and Japanese sources. Those guys are usual players too, they have just 1 year experience with this game.

I don't know really know what's your problem. Are you sort of Nutaku employees or what?

My only purpose is nothing else than helping people to have maximum of fun ingame without digging deep into the pocket.

I'm not a veteran, I'm not a whale, I'm not promoter of DMM, I just an usual player.

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Originally Posted by sanahtlig

So you're saying a F2P dev made the game harder once people had deeply committed to the game to promote its cash shop?! I never would've expected this from companies like DMM and Nutaku!

...I think we all know that games like this are designed to exploit their players. I do appreciate your insights as a DMM veteran, but I think you're preaching to the wrong crowd in the wrong thread. The sort of message you're pushing belongs in an FAQ thread or something, where it might actually be seen. Or perhaps the reroller/exploits thread, since that's what you're advocating.

Sorry. I'm not veteran. I just started the game 2 weeks ago. This is the first place I came to get some info about the game, so I could get some useful info. I spend some money for the devs to support them, but I'm not a whale who doesn't care about money. I'm always aiming for endgame content or at least being competitive to do the same thing, what all the whales could do.
I don't like the feeling, if I have keep playing a game for months, then I realize, oh, shit, my account is not able to anything at ultimate and ragnarok level or solo advent bosses. Then try the luck get pull specific SSRs from gasha with that little chance?! lol, That's the stupidest thing, you could do.
After reading posts from veteran Asian players (more than 1 year experiences) and gathering details about the game mechanics. I know that my current account is shit, even I have spent more than 100 euro on it. The SSRs I got from the granted tickets aren't worth, but I'm still keep playing this account, because with the miracle ticket, I will still be able to build a decent team for endgame, the only thing is that I need to spend more money. If I start with a better account, I don't need spend money (or just a little) and can reach the same goal.
That is a failure what I did, so I'm telling others: You can be prepared for future content right now!

Tell me what's the sense discuss about SRs, which won't help you to clear any hard contents. At the end there was only one tip useful: It doesn't matter, which SRs you are using, just upgrade the weapons and everything is fine.
There are 2 parts of the this game.
1 Part: You can do it, once your SR weapons are maxed. For this part, you don't need team-setup.
2 Part: You need specific SSR, otherwise no chance. You could keep farm your SR or SSR weapons, but you won't get better. then you may think, oh, I should start the game with some better advices.

So i take my time and translate and share all details and game mechanics which I got from Chinese and Japanese sources. Those guys are usual players too, they have just 1 year experience with this game.

I don't know really know what's your problem. Are you sort of Nutaku employees or what?

My only purpose is nothing else than helping people to have maximum of fun ingame without digging deep into the pocket.

I'm not a veteran, I'm not a whale, I'm not promoter of DMM, I just an usual player.

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Originally Posted by sanahtlig

... but I think you're preaching to the wrong crowd in the wrong thread. The sort of message you're pushing belongs in an FAQ thread or something, where it might actually be seen. Or perhaps the reroller/exploits thread, since that's what you're advocating.

I'm talking to the wrong people?
I have to remind you. This thread is called "Competition: Propose the best realistic team", not "Propose the best free SRs team".

Offtopic closed- Please discuss further how to build a team around Baal and co.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Tell me what's the sense discuss about SRs, which won't help you to clear any hard contents.

The basic premise of the thread was "a set of teams you could build in 10 random rolls of the Jewel Gatcha without spending money or using a reroll exploit". You're leaping to all sorts of conclusions about the purpose or message.

I don't know really know what's your problem. Are you sort of Nutaku employees or what?

You're posting in my thread about how my thread is pointless / misleading. What sort of response did you expect? If you want to talk about the value of rerolling, go talk about it where it'll be seen and appreciated, not in my thread targeting users who aren't interested in endless rerolling or paying to win!

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

The basic premise of the thread was "a set of teams you could build in 10 random rolls of the Jewel Gatcha without spending money or using a reroll exploit". You're leaping to all sorts of conclusions about the purpose or message.


You're posting in my thread about how my thread is pointless / misleading. What sort of response did you expect? If you want to talk about the value of rerolling, go talk about it where it'll be seen and appreciated, not in my thread targeting users who aren't interested in endless rerolling or paying to win!

Rerolling? I don't give fuck. I have none of those must-have SSRs. If I need I will buy them. Rerolling is actually something for you, who believes to have the best realistic team with 10 random rolls.

Basically, any SSR pull is possible within 10 random rolls or not?! Your requirements make nonsense just like your thread.
And your title is misleading anyway

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Rerolling? I don't give fuck. I have none of those must-have SSRs. If I need I will buy them. Rerolling is actually something for you, who believes to have the best realistic team with 10 random rolls.

Basically, any SSR pull is possible within 10 random rolls or not?! Your requirements make nonsense just like your thread.
And your title is misleading anyway

And now you're just throwing a tantrum.

The probability of pulling a SSR in ten 10-rolls is about 76%. You can check my Gatcha rate calculator if you're interested.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

And now you're just throwing a tantrum.

The probability of pulling a SSR in ten 10-rolls is about 76%. You can check my Gatcha rate calculator if you're interested.

Even 2 SSR are normal within 10 rolls.

If People just roll everytime once they have 3000 jewels, they will never have the best team or even a working team.

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Originally Posted by sanahtlig

And now you're just throwing a tantrum.

The probability of pulling a SSR in ten 10-rolls is about 76%. You can check my Gatcha rate calculator if you're interested.

Even 2 SSR are normal within 10 rolls.

If People just roll everytime once they have 3000 jewels, they will never have the best team or even a working team.

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Originally Posted by sanahtlig

And now you're just throwing a tantrum.

The probability of pulling a SSR in ten 10-rolls is about 76%. You can check my Gatcha rate calculator if you're interested.

Even 2 SSR are normal within 10 rolls.

If People just roll everytime once they have 3000 jewels, they will never have the best team or even a working team.

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Originally Posted by sanahtlig

And now you're just throwing a tantrum.

The probability of pulling a SSR in ten 10-rolls is about 76%. You can check my Gatcha rate calculator if you're interested.

People should aim for the best SSR for each role Healer, debuffer, damage dealer etc of a single element, saving jewels for the right Moment.
SRs or Rs are for in-between, because most of them become useless against Level-50/70 solo bosses, but SR like beelze is unique, better than many SSRs.
After 1 year, even a twinkacc for raid openning can get 5-6 SSRs at ease.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;72991]Even 2 SSR are normal within 10 rolls.

If People just roll everytime once they have 3000 jewels, they will never have the best team or even a working team.

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Even 2 SSR are normal within 10 rolls.

If People just roll everytime once they have 3000 jewels, they will never have the best team or even a working team.


People should aim for the best SSR for each role Healer, debuffer, damage dealer etc of a single element, saving jewels for the right Moment.
SRs or Rs are for in-between, because most of them become useless against Level-50/70 solo bosses, but SR like beelze is unique, better than many SSRs.
After 1 year, even a twinkacc for raid openning can get 5-6 SSRs at ease

If endgame content is impossible without a perfect team and SRs are shit why is there a mission in the most current event for clearing ultimate with only R-himes?

Is it a troll mission that is utterly impossible to complete? I'm genuinely curious.

Originally Posted by Licherous

If endgame content is impossible without a perfect team and SRs are shit why is there a mission in the most current event for clearing ultimate with only R-himes?

Is it a troll mission that is utterly impossible to complete? I'm genuinely curious.

Wait what~ There's a mission like that in the current event? Cause my 'Mission Events' tab has been saying 'Under Preparation!' since the beginning of time. Unless you're referring to something else which I can't seem to find anything about at first glance.

On another note, what's with the wall of duplicate text (×﹏×)

Not sure what the fuzz is about but from what I just briefly read it's not something I want to partake in; not that I have anything to say about the matter anyway.

Originally Posted by Diesirae

Wait what~ There's a mission like that in the current event? Cause my 'Mission Events' tab has been saying 'Under Preparation!' since the beginning of time. Unless you're referring to something else which I can't seem to find anything about at first glance.

In the dmm version kamihime there are event quests and one of them require you to beat ultimate with R only team (I am not sure when they were added, but they should be coming soon to nutaku). So in other words current "endgame" = dmm version. And there is quest that require you to beat ultimate with Rare kamihimes. I am pretty sure that "perfect team made only of SSR" isn't needed for that.

But Ragnarok? Ragnarok difficulty will pose problems mainly because there will be no trash mobs that will help in filling burst gauge and boss will have almost always only 1 charge orb.(or maybe always?) Ah, and you can attempt it only once a day.
Still, I don't think you will need "perfect SSR team" for this. Well, that's about advent battles. Now if you want to solo ragnarok raid... Then you will probably need something ridiculus to be able to pull it off. But why would you do it is beyong me.