Thread: Share Your Fortune/Misfortune

Originally Posted by Slashley

The rates in this game are terrible. You have 1.5% chance per slot for a SSR Hime, and then your chances of finding a useful SSR Hime is even lower.Technically yes, practically no. There's a difference there, please learn it.

the difference is simply this:

-either you try and have a CHANCE
-or you don't and have NOTHING.

there's no talking your way around that


also, 1.5% chance for an SSR hime... pfft...

I've played games where your chances were more brutal. FKG now tends to have gacha rates of 1% for the best characters, and it was 0.5% for a long time....

and I forgot the game, but it had a 0.1% chance for anything among it's highest rarity. would you rather have that?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

We use tickets because its free.

biggest point right here....

why complain about something free? if you paid for it, that's another story. But if someone is really complaining about free stuff, then would they rather NOT HAVE IT AT ALL AND HAVE TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

And your point is? He just said that not 0%. And getting useful or not is comes second. I doubt that getting all SSR if possible unless you cash hell out for it. We use tickets because its free. And this thread is not even discussion about gacha rate, it's about your fortune or misfortune

Even if the thread is about that, this was about somebody saying that they used Tower Medals for Tickets.

One of the things that gacha games rely on is players bragging about their winning, which happen but are not likely at all. So yeah, let's not encourage people to do stupid things and set the record straight. Do not waste your Medals on Tickets.

Originally Posted by nut

--And I think you divide 3% SSR chance for hime and eido but there are currently 64 SSR hime and only 27 SSR eido so the chance for SSR hime is highger.--

That's not how gacha works. Sanathlig compiled data on it when the game launched.

The game first rolls what type you get. You have a 3% chance of SSR. This used to be ~43% chance of SSR Hime, ~43% chance of SSR Eidolon, ~15% chance non-Hime SSR weapon. Since they took out the non-Hime SSR weapons out, we assume that it's now 50/50 chances. Nobody has compiled data since the change.

-- Slashley

Why exchange for something probably good and free when you can exchange for something absolutely good and free?

In any case, do what you see fit. It's your medals, not ours.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Even if the thread is about that, this was about somebody saying that they used Tower Medals for Tickets.

One of the things that gacha games rely on is players bragging about their winning, which happen but are not likely at all. So yeah, let's not encourage people to do stupid things and set the record straight. Do not waste your Medals on Tickets.That's not how gacha works. Sanathlig compiled data on it when the game launched.

The game first rolls what type you get. You have a 3% chance of SSR. This used to be ~43% chance of SSR Hime, ~43% chance of SSR Eidolon, ~15% chance non-Hime SSR weapon. Since they took out the non-Hime SSR weapons out, we assume that it's now 50/50 chances. Nobody has compiled data since the change.

-- Slashley

Isn't around few months of the game launched, the amount of SSR hime and eido is about the same, then they start to pull out hime more often than eido? I do quite amount of reroll when I started play and noticed that I got SSR hime more than eido, but I don't know, I don't record it down so maybe I only notice the hime and what you said is the case.

Originally Posted by nut

Isn't around few months of the game launched, the amount of SSR hime and eido is about the same, then they start to pull out hime more often than eido? I do quite amount of reroll when I started play and noticed that I got SSR hime more than eido, but I don't know, I don't record it down so maybe I only notice the hime and what you said is the case.

Compile statistics and present them, then. But it's unlikely to be like what you said, as the game launched with 7 SSR Hime, 12 SSR Eidolons and 16 non-Hime SSR weapons, I believe. 43/43/15 doesn't make sense if they were all to be equal.

And we have to remember that weights are VERY much a thing in Kamihime. When you pull a SSR Eidolon, you do NOT have 6/27 (~22%) chance of a P2W Eidolon. Not even close. Of course, P2W Eidolons could be their own slot. For all we know, there could be a 1.5% chance of SSR Hime, 1.4% chance of SSR Eidolons (sans P2W) and 0.1% chance of a P2W Eidolon slot. Just not any data about it.

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

the difference is simply this:

-either you try and have a CHANCE
-or you don't and have NOTHING.

there's no talking your way around that

You're a complete fucking dumbass.

Again, this was about somebody spending their Medals on Tickets. Do you have any idea on just how bad of a deal that is?
Let's see now, either you buy 8 tickets for 3000 or 300 Jewels for 1000. ... oh boy, let's just ignore those Jewels. Okay, since two of those eight tickets are Hime weapon tickets, let's assume that Kamihime doesn't fuck you over and each of those tickets are actually 3% chance of a random SSR Hime. For simplicity, let's just say that those two tickets are worth two each, so you get 10 tickets for 3000 Medals. 1.5% chance = ~1/67. That means you need, on average, to get that ticket set seven times to get a RANDOM SSR Hime (not quite the exact maths, but fuck it, close enough). And that SSR Hime has a fairly big chance of being garbage.

What does seven ticket sets (21 000 Medals) also get you? Two bricks.

Which is better, two bricks or one random SSR Hime? Let me tell you, it certainly isn't the latter.

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

also, 1.5% chance for an SSR hime... pfft...

I've played games where your chances were more brutal. FKG now tends to have gacha rates of 1% for the best characters, and it was 0.5% for a long time....

and I forgot the game, but it had a 0.1% chance for anything among it's highest rarity. would you rather have that?

Who the fuck cares, numbskull? What rates other games have doesn't matter. Even if it did matter somehow, even less than nothing is still nothing.
And nothing has changed.

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

biggest point right here....

why complain about something free? if you paid for it, that's another story. But if someone is really complaining about free stuff, then would they rather NOT HAVE IT AT ALL AND HAVE TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING?

There is no such thing as free, idiot. When it comes to Medals, you pay in bricks.

At best, you can make the argument about something like raid event tickets. You get a few as a bonus when going for 50/55. Those are "free" since you're aiming for the SSRs. After that you can keep going for 200/100 and get some ~20 more tickets, but the price is your free time. That is, of course, also the effective price for the SSRs. And the electricity bills you need to pay. Anyway, even once you do get those ~23 tickets don't expect a SSR Hime from them. About once every three raid events, assuming average-ish luck.


Just fuck off from KH forums already, moron. Jesus christ I'm so tired of your inane bullshit. There's so many bullshit posts from you that I've already started to ignore since I just can't be arsed to even read them.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Compile statistics and present them, then. But it's unlikely to be like what you said, as the game launched with 7 SSR Hime, 12 SSR Eidolons and 16 non-Hime SSR weapons, I believe. 43/43/15 doesn't make sense if they were all to be equal.

And we have to remember that weights are VERY much a thing in Kamihime. When you pull a SSR Eidolon, you do NOT have 6/27 (~22%) chance of a P2W Eidolon. Not even close. Of course, P2W Eidolons could be their own slot. For all we know, there could be a 1.5% chance of SSR Hime, 1.4% chance of SSR Eidolons (sans P2W) and 0.1% chance of a P2W Eidolon slot. Just not any data about it.You're a complete fucking dumbass.

I just look at Sanahtlig's gacha data, the 43/43/15 ratio come from data included hime till summer Sol, so eido around Fenrir-Sleipnir which mean 20 hime/18 eido, pretty close.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Compile statistics and present them, then.

Ah, ok, no current data so just you said what you think and I said what I think so we should stop here. I dont have big data and dont plan to do it anytime soon, but just my account as small sample with 11/8.

You're trying to pick a fight for no reason. When it comes to what's better between the gachas, then throw your data at me.

And yes, the bricks are better than tickets, but that's not the point either. Besides, I chose to get tickets over the brick cause I felt no need to get the brick, even if it's the best thing about tower.

The point is this, say it's like the raid event where tickets are given to you as progress... you're still gonna say that they aren't worth anything at all? If that's the case, don't worry about the Taimanin crossover cause you get nothing but tickets and a few magic jewels and elixirs...

Get stats out of your head cause it's not valid as to if someone should use tickets or not. If you get tickets or actually want to go out of your way for them, then use them cause it's free pulls.

And in the case of a free player, tickets and magic jewels is their ONLY pulls...

And again, starting to cross the line with your insults. Enjoy getting reported cause you're going that far nearly every time you even disagree with me. Can't realize it's not that serious, then someone else can deal with it.

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

You're trying to pick a fight for no reason.--

It's a noble cause. You little shithead left here before when somebody else insulted you, and my god these forums were quite enjoyable during that time.

And yeah, I've even reported myself, the open letter to Kotono thing from six days ago. This shit has to end one way or another.

jesus christ guys shut the fuck up at least do it on the general discussion rather than irrelevant threads

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