Thread: Share Your Fortune/Misfortune

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

You underestimate the power of a 100% eidolon, is all I can tell you... in which you can't be blamed, if you're still pretty early into the game and don't really have a strong grid to back it up with. The effects get really ridiculous as you get a stronger grid. The reason why we love 100% eidolons that much really boils down to the fact that there's only 1 (or 2 next year) of those per element, while with core SSR himes there's a couple. Probability at work here, you figure out the maths.

And as I like to say in all gacha games, whatever good stuff you get, be content with it, or disappointment follows.

Or life lessons, if you really think about it

I suppose that's true. I've only played the game for about 2 months. I suppose it's because even though I've read up on things like Character Attack and element attack, I'm still not grasping the math.

Originally Posted by HugMeTender

I suppose that's true. I've only played the game for about 2 months. I suppose it's because even though I've read up on things like Character Attack and element attack, I'm still not grasping the math.

The significance of "character atk" multiplied by "elemental atk" can be tested out simply on a calculator, if that's what you ain't too aware of, so let's plug some numbers in like so:

a. 1 x 1 = 1 (that's your absolute base)

Now, let's increase the first number by 0.5

b. 1.5 x 1 = 1.5
c. 2 x 1 = 2

And now, let's increase the second value of b by 0.5 instead of the first.

d. 1.5 x 1.5 = 2.25

Which is the whole big deal behind the oversimplified calculation, but simple works best for lazy people like me (us? lol)

The ideal scenario has you balance both numbers to achieve maximum damage output, as I've proven with the comparison between c and d. Plug in any other random number and you should observe the same thing.

The whole reason 100% elemental eidos are that big is because the "elemental atk" multiplier isn't something readily accessible in huge quantities, unlike "character atk", or assault, which you can get plenty of even with disaster assaults. 10 max SL M assaults readily gives you 130% on the first number, but the maximum you're gonna get from elemental atk for free is 90-100%, and the 100% is a bit of a stretch in certain cases. Now factor in the 100% eidolon, and you can suddenly hit values of 145-200%.

... And that's just my take on the matter I guess.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

... And that's just my take on the matter I guess.

^ totally this, i would just add that elemental advantage and attack soul weapons are both considered into the elemental bracket (reason why having soul weapon+ele adv suddenly makes character eidos appealing), so if you have your own 100%, you borrow a 100%, you play with ele adv and you have your maxed soul weapon, you have a ridiculuous amount of 275% elemental dmg, and this makes any assault income extremely valuable (reason why some dmm hraes owners run arthur with her hp axe instead of any attack weapon cause the 30% ele isnt that amazing anymore in those circumstances).

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

The significance of "character atk" multiplied by "elemental atk" can be tested out simply on a calculator, if that's what you ain't too aware of, so let's plug some numbers in like so:

a. 1 x 1 = 1 (that's your absolute base)

Now, let's increase the first number by 0.5

b. 1.5 x 1 = 1.5
c. 2 x 1 = 2

And now, let's increase the second value of b by 0.5 instead of the first.

d. 1.5 x 1.5 = 2.25

Which is the whole big deal behind the oversimplified calculation, but simple works best for lazy people like me (us? lol)

The ideal scenario has you balance both numbers to achieve maximum damage output, as I've proven with the comparison between c and d. Plug in any other random number and you should observe the same thing.

The whole reason 100% elemental eidos are that big is because the "elemental atk" multiplier isn't something readily accessible in huge quantities, unlike "character atk", or assault, which you can get plenty of even with disaster assaults. 10 max SL M assaults readily gives you 130% on the first number, but the maximum you're gonna get from elemental atk for free is 90-100%, and the 100% is a bit of a stretch in certain cases. Now factor in the 100% eidolon, and you can suddenly hit values of 145-200%.

... And that's just my take on the matter I guess.

Originally Posted by Ikki

^ totally this, i would just add that elemental advantage and attack soul weapons are both considered into the elemental bracket (reason why having soul weapon+ele adv suddenly makes character eidos appealing), so if you have your own 100%, you borrow a 100%, you play with ele adv and you have your maxed soul weapon, you have a ridiculuous amount of 275% elemental dmg, and this makes any assault income extremely valuable (reason why some dmm hraes owners run arthur with her hp axe instead of any attack weapon cause the 30% ele isnt that amazing anymore in those circumstances).

well, to help that further, they get 80% elemental attack no matter what with the 100% light eidolon.

to get the remainder (which increases as you break limit that eidolon), you'll need to match the element in your sub slots... 4% per each sub slot that's light in this case...

and as you break limit her, it's another 1% per match, so it goes from 4%, to 5%, to 6%... all the way to 8% per match...


so you don't immediately get 100% with the light (and dark later on) eidolon... but as you get more light eidolons, it'll help (so definitely need a light lilim with that until you can replace it). but even then, 80% is still a huge chunk.


and to put that in more perspective, the most you get outside of the gacha is 45% elemental (no special requirements), or 50% (need matching element) from events

did all the dailies today for that 50 magic jewels so that i had 300
then used those 300 for a single magic jewel roll

and sure enough i got lucky and aquired my first SSR light kamihime called frey ^^ jeeej me

Originally Posted by HugMeTender

I suppose that's true. I've only played the game for about 2 months. I suppose it's because even though I've read up on things like Character Attack and element attack, I'm still not grasping the math.

You got the one eido that has less than 1% of dropping and every single whale is out for.

I don't see how that's a bad outcome whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

did all the dailies today for that 50 magic jewels so that i had 300
then used those 300 for a single magic jewel roll

and sure enough i got lucky and aquired my first SSR light kamihime called frey ^^ jeeej me

Gratz man, Frey is pretty cool.

I was pulling on premium tickets and I got Michael............my fifth Light SSR. My other teams need more SSRs desperately but I get another Light one.

Can't complain too much since Michael is so useful anyways.

Originally Posted by nervehammer

I was pulling on premium tickets and I got Michael............my fifth Light SSR. My other teams need more SSRs desperately but I get another Light one.

Can't complain too much since Michael is so useful anyways.

Same happened to me, kinda.

Had Metatron from the get-go, then I got Shamash and Bunny, then I got a Bunny dupe.

I pulled Diana from my recent pulls.

Can't complain, I need Dark and Water himes, tho.

i got SSR hime across the board, which happen to be:

6 Dark- Susanoo, Nephtys, Thanatos, Amon, Satan, Osiris
5 Fire- Ares, Svarog, Acala, Dakki, Yamaraja
5 Light- Sol, Raphael, Tsukiyomi, Shamash, Metatron
4 Wind- Gaia, Cu Chulainn, Cybele, Hastur
3 Water- Aphrodite, Snow Raphael, Saraswati
3 Thunder- Thor, Tyr, Jupiter


i started leaning towards wind, then to fire, then to dark, then to light, then back to dark....

it's just how this game is I guess

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

i got SSR hime across the board, which happen to be:

6 Dark- Susanoo, Nephtys, Thanatos, Amon, Satan, Osiris
5 Fire- Ares, Svarog, Acala, Dakki, Yamaraja
5 Light- Sol, Raphael, Tsukiyomi, Shamash, Metatron
4 Wind- Gaia, Cu Chulainn, Cybele, Hastur
3 Water- Aphrodite, Snow Raphael, Saraswati
3 Thunder- Thor, Tyr, Jupiter


i started leaning towards wind, then to fire, then to dark, then to light, then back to dark....

it's just how this game is I guess

I wonder... how many of those are through cashing?

For reference, here's a list of my SSRs:

Fire: Amaterasu, Ares
Wind: Summer Poseidon, Gaia, Hastur
Water: Snow Raphy, SSR Nike (reroll), Cthulhu (miracle), Ea
Thunder: Raiko
Light: Sol (miracle), Raphy (reroll)
Dark: cries. Insert dank meme here

And a whole bunch of OMEGALUL eidolons I guess...

1LB Ouroboros, Echidna, 1LB Takemikazuchi, Thunderbird, Fenrir, Jabberwock, Huanglong, Girimehkala