Thread: NO SSR kamihimes problems and the next event

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Granuaile and D'Arts skill are Atk + Def down, not just atk down. Also the def down part stacks with ambush, so you get even more def down.

I understand i probably going that way if i have good fire weapon/s. gawain and arthur can only wield axe and sword. for the sake of simplicity because she able to use fire staff i go for andromeda and going for roland route. It is probably not the best decision but i'm casual simplicity in the end takes priority. This game is a game of luck except for the loaded. to push forward it is decided by the gacha... like how Non SSR eidolon is trash by default in the end it will be in the bin upgrading them also seems a lost hope and certain waste of energy and resources. You know gacha is a random. if i lucky prolly can get tons of soul point to get andromeda much quicker. baphomet also has atk down it will probably help. will see how difficult the event is before taking another step would be wise.

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oh yeah balor also has dizy plus poison effect as backup plan if firepower isn't enough. i still can get to replace more with fire weapons to stack all the defender and fire assault skills

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Ah you're opting for andromeda too for the priority. Glad we are in agreement.

D'art has good skills but its not the best by far. Ambush (Gawain), Desertion (Asmund), Ressurect (Andromeda), and Soothing Breeze (Roland) are all skills I often use instead. Oh, and the affliction removal skill (Maiden's Prayer?) for Medusa/other status inflicting fights.

Also keep in mind that sniper shot overlaps with certain kamihime skills, so if you have someone like belphegor or cybele on your team sniper shot becomes a lot less valuable.

Originally Posted by VortexMagus

D'art has good skills but its not the best by far. Ambush (Gawain), Desertion (Asmund), Ressurect (Andromeda), and Soothing Breeze (Roland) are all skills I often use instead. Oh, and the affliction removal skill (Maiden's Prayer?) for Medusa/other status inflicting fights.

Also keep in mind that sniper shot overlaps with certain kamihime skills, so if you have someone like belphegor or cybele on your team sniper shot becomes a lot less valuable.

Thanks for the head up. I don't realize cybele has attack and def down skill. Leveling her rn to 60 seems a bother but will try. I'm taking it slowly so leveling her in expert seems valid option.

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Originally Posted by VortexMagus

Also keep in mind that sniper shot overlaps with certain kamihime skills, so if you have someone like belphegor or cybele on your team sniper shot becomes a lot less valuable.

That would only be the case if you're focused on one of their elements and don't have plans to use anything else. Also Sniper Shot gives a better reduction than either Belphegor or Cybele.

I mean really, using your logic you could say Ambush does the same since it overlaps with hime def downs.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thanks for the head up. I don't realize cybele has attack and def down skill. Leveling her rn to 60 seems a bother but will try. I'm taking it slowly so leveling her in expert seems valid option.

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That would only be the case if you're focused on one of their elements and don't have plans to use anything else. Also Sniper Shot gives a better reduction than either Belphegor or Cybele.

I mean really, using your logic you could say Ambush does the same since it overlaps with hime def downs.

I think he was talking in context. going that route also can save your soul point since cybelle is an SR and everyone has it so it is a valid option. cybelle also has elemental advantage now so she has being buffed by the elemental advantage. I don't plan to debate it since i don't have any soul point to go d artagnan.

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So people don't misunderstand i appreciate all people that has given input. Each person has some points and more information with logical explanation come from it too. Which one is better imo is case by case matter.

Originally Posted by TNinja

I think he was talking in context. going that route also can save your soul point since cybelle is an SR and everyone has it so it is a valid option. cybelle also has elemental advantage now so she has being buffed by the elemental advantage. I don't plan to debate it since i don't have any soul point to go d artagnan.

The key point is now. If it's a fire event on the other hand, Cybele likely won't be an option, and Belph isn't an option for everyone since not everyone has pulled her. Also to rely on Cybele, that would mean you'd have to heavily invest in wind if you want her to be effective in non thunder events, otherwise you're losing a LOT of damage by having a single unit just for a debuff.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

The key point is now. If it's a fire event on the other hand, Cybele likely won't be an option, and Belph isn't an option for everyone since not everyone has pulled her. Also to rely on Cybele, that would mean you'd have to heavily invest in wind if you want her to be effective in non thunder events, otherwise you're losing a LOT of damage by having a single unit just for a debuff.

I understand that's why i said it is case by case. Assuming some kamihime overwrite the effect and not stacking so the effect won't be crucial either since some kamihimes already have its own debuff, Like nergal, baphemot etc. alternate option like healing, regen etc can be a good option and in some case can shine more than debuff.