Thread: Will Kamipro be canceled?

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Nope. You're paying for gameplay incentives, not content. They have no actual obligation to continue hosting the game, especially if they give notice that the game will be taken down. Realize that there's far more popular 'free-to-play' and subscription games that have been taken down in the past. How many lawsuits have you heard about that over that? 'False advertising' is likely the only related infringement you could pin them on, and that only occurs if they renege on a claim. Did Nutaku ever promise to host a game for a specific timeframe? I don't think so.

I find it disturbing, that consumers of video games are so often willing to give up their rights to property that they paid for without a fight.

True, there are popular 'free-to-play' and subscription games that have been taken down in the past without people fighting. But if you spend money on google play, you get a full refund if you ask for it. As for servers closing, some companies give a refund some don't. I'm not going to do the legal research, but just some things on the top of my head and a quick google:

Bragg v. Linden Lab says items purchased purchased in game can be subject to property rights.
Specht v. Netscape Communications Corp - I didn't see any clickwrap when I entered the game, and did not enter into any contract where I give them money for services.
Bassett v. Elec. Arts, Inc. - though EA had an arbitration clause so the class action didn't pick up steam.

This is new stuff. The law isn't black and white.

Originally Posted by HoroBoro

Bragg v. Linden Lab says items purchased purchased in game can be subject to property rights.

In these games, you typically purchase Nutaku Gold, which is then redeemed for an item (usually a Gatcha ticket), which then randomly awards you something. Nutaku could say, "You got exactly what you paid for, which is virtual currency used to buy a one-time consumable. Hope you enjoyed it!" You're not paying for a product or service with these games, and therefore Nutaku has no contractual obligation to guarantee your access.

Bragg v. Linden held that Bragg's terminated assets had real-life value. That was true because real-money-trading between users is part of the game design. Nutaku's games have no such feature, and it's not clear that the money paid for digital items is equivalent to their value, especially when the items are obtained via a lottery system and are bound to the account.

There's a very simple way to solve this problem: pressure companies like Nutaku to include such guarantees in their terms of service. If they don't play ball, boycott them. But good luck convincing a significant portion of the userbase to join your crusade. The community is too fragmented and most users are entirely apathetic to anything beyond their immediate gratification--this being porn and all.

Short anwser: No, its popular.
Long anwser: All games will eventually close, whether because their not popular anymore, lost quality or the company that hosted them went bankrupt. Heck, when you think about it nutaku has only existed for 3 years and how many games that they hosted have dissipated?
Its amazing how easy it is for a consumer to give up their capital for temporary objects as long as in the "moment" they have it, but most people care about the now, why would they care about tomorrow?

If you willing to spend just spend it you don't need to regret because it's what you want.
Just think that all spending is for your own happiness then all problem will be solve.

All game have to come to an end in one day
but the important part is do you have good moment with it or not.
Just make good memory with it then you will never regret to play Kamipro.

Sadly it will at some point. Although hopefully not for a long time. But that's the downside to online based games. They can just go up in smoke. Thus my favorite games will remain the ones on my shelves.

But, for the time being enjoy it while it's here. And just spend your money knowing it isn't for something permanent. Personally that's why I'm fine with mostly free to play. If it meant the thing would last I'd probably spend some real money, but either way it will be gone.

Though not sure how many times I'll keep coming back.