Thread: [Event 12] Apocalypse & Phoenix Rematch

That rng. losing 4 kamihime due to 4 triple attacks in a row fully hitting despite blindness. Then going on to beat her using soul+2 kamihime thanks to a combination of only getting single attacks and constantly missing or getting stunned by dizziness. Thanks for saving me that elixir, RNGesus.

Good ol misclick when trying to click reply. /sigh

Originally Posted by TNinja

That is the reason i don't bother with her it has weak stats. You should see wiki first before making decision but you have that far not mlb ing her seems will become waste of an effort.

No it's not a bad idea to get her and max her if you use light and not a cash player. If you bothered to look at wiki you should know that Phoenix is the best for an all light team for a very long time. There's a 70~90% light boost eidolon that requires you use 3 different element himes but it's questionable whether or not to even use it.

If you're not using light, then obviously you can just ignore Pheonix.

edit: removed some incorrect date/info

Originally Posted by Aidoru

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No it's not a bad idea to get her and max her if you use light and not a cash player. If you bothered to look at wiki you should know the next light event eidolon isn't for over 10 more weeks and is completely inferior as a main eidolon. Phoenix is the best for an all light team and the best for light in general for a very long time as all the rest of them have low passives boosts. There's a 70% boost in the far future but that requires you use 3 different element himes to obtain the 70% light boost and even then, that's not for at least 8~9 more months.

If you're not using light, then obviously you can just ignore her.

3 different element kami? i can get 1 of them in main team and the other 2 in sub team, right?

Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

3 different element kami? i can get 1 of them in main team and the other 2 in sub team, right?

According to the google translate of the JP wiki of one of the eidolon that has the 70% buff, it needs to be the 5 main units of your main team including your soul. They also mention it's a rather difficult or questionable to use these kind of eidolons as main because if mismatching sub himes in case one of your main dies, it negates the effect altogether meaning you get nothing.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

According to the google translate of the JP wiki of one of the eidolon that has the 70% buff, it needs to be the 5 main units of your main team including your soul. They also mention it's a rather difficult or questionable to use these kind of eidolons as main because if mismatching sub himes in case one of your main dies, it negates the effect altogether meaning you get nothing.

i think i misunderstood something, by 3 elements it means i can use light team+ another 2 random element kamihime, right?
and if the other 2 have to be in main team and not in sub, that means only 3 kamihime will get that bonus at time 'cause the other 2 have to be with different element.
i guess it can give some high bonus, but have lots of risks to it as well :S

It's mostly for teams which are severely lacking in some department, like having only good offensive fire himes so you can use two of them and put in a Sol for healing and a dark debuffer to keep your team alive/reduce enemy's def.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

My grid looks like this:


I don't use the defender bow and lance except as mainhands.

XP isn't really an issue if you farm Advent Ultimates regularly (SR weapon enhancements are huge XP wells, and you can end up with dozens of them). The limit breaks are the primary bottleneck, not the XP. Also, once you're strong enough to farm Ultimate reliably, assault skill is likely going to be your main bottleneck on damage moreso than base stats.

nice grid~
i just simply head on and burst through Ragnarok Apocalypse/Phoenix... i'm a no brainer lol...

well, i don't know why the forum won't allow me to share my links even though i'm a member now so...
i just removed the w w w dot youtube dot com from them -_-
Apocalypse VS dark team
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Apocalypse VS fire team
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Apcalypse VS light team
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Apocalypse VS thunder team
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Apocalypse VS water team
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Apocalypse VS wind team
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Pheonix ultimate mode
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Phoenix ragnarok mode
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Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

i think i misunderstood something, by 3 elements it means i can use light team+ another 2 random element kamihime, right?
and if the other 2 have to be in main team and not in sub, that means only 3 kamihime will get that bonus at time 'cause the other 2 have to be with different element.
i guess it can give some high bonus, but have lots of risks to it as well :S

I made a date mistake and we're actually getting the 70% light eidolon in a couple weeks with the union event. The wiki for some reason had the specific girl I was looking at placed on the bottom instead of after Quetzalcoatl.

Anyways, that 70% is actually its no break passive. It goes up to 90%. So it's quite good as long as you can keep you main team alive but whether you can actually fully break her or not may not be up to you. Hopefully you have a active union.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Anyways, that 70% is actually its no break passive. It goes up to 90%. So it's quite good as long as you can keep you main team alive but whether you can actually fully break her or not may not be up to you. Hopefully you have a active union.

I did some DPS comparisons and the Lilith eidolons are a substantial DPS loss unless you actually plan to run with 2 off-element kamihime. As in, a team with 1 off-element kamihime and typical eidolons will outperform that team in DPS by 5-10%. It's a nice fallback for Ragnaroks where certain skills are required, so you definitely want to pick up the one for your element, if only for their situational usefulness (an ~15% DPS boost in those 2 off-element kamihime scenarios).