Thread: [Event 12] Apocalypse & Phoenix Rematch

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Oh, I see where you guys are getting at now, the value of the .4 difference from the highest value to calculate the difference in percentage in comparison to the lowest. Seems to be my poor choice of wording. The multiplier difference is still .4 but the percentage of that .4 is 18%.

But should we not be comparing the 2 values to the value of the specific attack (regular attack being your basic x1 multiplier), so 1, 2.8 and 2.4.

In this case (2.8 - 2.4)/1 = .4/1 = .4?

The 222.4 and 222.8 example turned into percentages is 22240% and 22280%, which is still a 40% difference if comparing to a regular attack.

A little late to jump in this but I think I see the problem. It appears to be misleading information and a poor choice of words snowballing into a pile of confusion. I went ahead and searched for the other topic you mentioned which appears to be this (harem-battle. club/kamihime-project/3352-explanation-damage-calculated.html), where the opening post makes the same mistake you did. I feel like the others didn't really do a good job at clarifying anything either.

To make it easy to understand, let's simply do the calculations using your numbers.

Your two values are 2.4 and 2.8. You said that "you lose 40% damage" which is the sole problem. 40% of 2.8 (.4 x 2.8) is 1.12, so saying that "you lose 40%" is basically saying there's 1.12 difference between the two values, which as you can see is not the case.

The percent value difference of that .4 is 14.2857%, rounded to 14% by others and found using the formula mentioned in the previous page. So 0.142857 x 2.8 gets you .3999 (rounds up to .4) and matches the difference between the two values, so it's the correct percentage. So you would lose about 14% damage would be correct.

To use that .4 as a conclusive, you'd need to keep it as that decimal value and not a percentage as that will lead others to think it's a percentage of another value. So something along the lines of "You'd lose .4 to your multiplier" and not 40% to your multiplier or 40% to your damage.

I have a calculator for this. There's no need to post mathematical proofs in walls of text when you can just use my calculator, input your specific starting conditions, and get an answer that's specific to your team (with the % difference included). I made the calculator for the very reason that the best eidolons to use change based on a variety of factors.

The calculator is a great tool but it does not explain his misconception and misunderstanding.

finally got my 2nd copy, realise I never 1 star Phoenix or Apoc

now, 1 star Apoc

shaaaaa, time to do Phoenix for symmetry...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

A little late to jump in this but I think I see the problem. It appears to be misleading information and a poor choice of words snowballing into a pile of confusion. I went ahead and searched for the other topic you mentioned which appears to be this (harem-battle. club/kamihime-project/3352-explanation-damage-calculated.html), where the opening post makes the same mistake you did. I feel like the others didn't really do a good job at clarifying anything either..

Thanks for that, I had guessed it was something along those lines and that example made complete sense. That .4 is still an important factor, it was just me more or less using incorrectly and turning it into a percentage value.

And back on topic, it seems there should be a maintenance today for the DP crossover rewards. I really hope they add in our summer girls too, they're overdue.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Thanks for that, I had guessed it was something along those lines and that example made complete sense. That .4 is still an important factor, it was just me more or less using incorrectly and turning it into a percentage value.

And back on topic, it seems there should be a maintenance today for the DP crossover rewards. I really hope they add in our summer girls too, they're overdue.

Saw the animation come up for new weapons and summer Sol when I refreshed the page a tick after 11 PM EDT, before the maintenance started. So I'm pretty sure they are coming.

hey guys, i'm new here in forum.
wanted to share my video battles with apocalypse and pheonix but i can't post links for some reason.
is there another way i can share them here?

Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

hey guys, i'm new here in forum.
wanted to share my video battles with apocalypse and pheonix but i can't post links for some reason.
is there another way i can share them here?

You need to be a member to post links, so get that 20 posts. Other than that you can post them in creative way, like remove dots from your link or put spaces after them.

I would post video about Phoenix ragnarok but it would be boring because I am always waiting for her buffs to expire. As for Apocalypse... I am really unlucky with her and right now I am just playing with different setups.

Originally Posted by jazz154

You need to be a member to post links, so get that 20 posts. Other than that you can post them in creative way, like remove dots from your link or put spaces after them.

I would post video about Phoenix ragnarok but it would be boring because I am always waiting for her buffs to expire. As for Apocalypse... I am really unlucky with her and right now I am just playing with different setups.

so all i need to do is either to get 20 posts and become a member or just change the link a bit, hut?
well, i'll just waith then, i prefer to post full links without changing them XD

yea, have no luck with ragnarok apocalypse as well, maybe if i had a better light team i could do something but nope

Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

so all i need to do is either to get 20 posts and become a member or just change the link a bit, hut?
well, i'll just waith then, i prefer to post full links without changing them XD

yea, have no luck with ragnarok apocalypse as well, maybe if i had a better light team i could do something but nope

Well, I am doing them all with water team. The problem with Apocalypse is that if I don't get her dizzy at least 2 times then I will die. If she focus on my soul = I die. If she keep on spamming her special ability = I die.
It's really troublesome.