Thread: How does the union event work?

Originally Posted by Boydjt

In terms of individual pp, does anyone have an estimate for the amount of time you'd need to invest into this to get all rewards (in comparison to raid events)?

For individuals, the PP tiers are the same as raid events, so expect a similar level of commitment to be required. Maxing Union PP will require 13 individuals with that same level of commitment.

In other words: better find a union filled with players of a similar activity level quick before the event starts.

about time to join a strong union

Seems like so much effort and time to do compared to the other events. I might skip this one out.

for this event are you able to use union burst times like in the normal raids?

If I'm in a Union can I leave it now and join a new one when the event starts or can you not join unions during the event either? They said "Notice: The ability to transfer between unions will be deactivated for the duration of the Crucible of Combat event." but I wasn't sure if that meant joining, leaving, or both.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If I'm in a Union can I leave it now and join a new one when the event starts or can you not join unions during the event either?

Based on Japanese DMM wiki, you cannot join any new union or leave your current union once the union event starts. So your best option is to stay within your current union for now. If you leave now, you will enter the 24-hour preventive time, which will roll over into the union event time, by then when you will be union-less and hence disadvantaged.

Originally Posted by noxybell

Based on Japanese DMM wiki, you cannot join any new union or leave your current union once the union event starts. So your best option is to stay within your current union for now. If you leave now, you will enter the 24-hour preventive time, which will roll over into the union event time, by then when you will be union-less and hence disadvantaged.

There's an official notice about this at Nutaku:

"Dear Gamers,
The Crucible of Combat is a Union based event.

Please keep in mind that the following Union functions will be unavailable for the duration of the event:
Kick Member
Leave Union
Disband Union"

The Japanese wiki I checked specifically mentioned that joining unions during the event was still possible.

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That sucks, my current union is relaly inactive. Nobody else plays much.

I get that they're trying to prevent abuse / grief (last minute join into union, leader kicking people last minute, etc), but something like this should really have been communicated way before the start of event, not 21 hours before it. With the 24 hour join limit, even if you saw the message and left immediately, you would've still been screwed either way (assuming completely inactive union). And honestly, I kind of fail to see what purpose a 24 hour limit would serve to any party, be it players or Nutaku.

To clear up the misinformation: you can join a union during the event. You just can't leave one.

Also, I've been warning people since before the last raid event that an active union would be required. Users here shouldn't be surprised.

My union has found out some information that others might find useful

1) Buffs cap out at 400 per day, total.
This means you should try to farm 400 Holy Grails per day. Buffs also seem to be limited at 99 Per category, though this is unconfirmed right now. If this is the case, we plan to spend 99 in Attack+, 99 in Double attack rate +, 99 in Tripple attack rate+, and 99 in burst damage+, which leftovers into HP or Affliction rate+
From previous information earlier in this thread, buffs are reset daily, and must be spent again. For this cause, optimally try to prepare 400 grails in advance, and spend all 400 as soon as the day is reset.

2) BOSS HAS ALOT OF DANGEROUS BUFFS. DISPEL THEM WITH CHAOS MAGIC ASAP.
Chaos Magic is an EX skill gained from Levelling up Cassiopeia. The boss can often have as much as 3 buffs active at the same time, if not dispelled. These buffs are Attack+, Defense+, Double attack rate+, and Triple attack rate+
The Attack+ buff is particularly lethal, level 40+ Ultimate Demons easily team-wiping our union in a single attack when not dispelled, even with precautions in place (defense buffs, attack debuffs on boss, etc).
The Defense+ buff seems to cut our Damage Dealt in half, or less, making the boss extremely difficult to kill.
For this cause our Union is bringing 5-6 Chaos Magic slotted heros to every raid. We also recommend plenty of Cassio/Andro heroes as these heros can heal every player's team, with our most veteran Dark-Mains bring DPS heros such as Arthur to do the heavy-lifting.
We also highly recommend at least 1 Mordred per raid, to bring Black Propaganda for boss control, which lets others bring Chaos Magic or Attack/Defense debuffs like Sniper Shot.

3) No SSR's or Rankings in this event. The DMM version had SSR's only in the REPRINT, aka the rerun of this event, which wont appear in the Nutaku version for roughly another ~9months(?).

4) You aren't limited to 1 raid at a time.
If you die in a demon raid, simply join another raid! You can seemingly participate in as many simultaneous Lillim and Demon battles as you wish, though I have at most only managed to be part of 2 Demon battles and a Lillim battle at the same time;
When a Raid that you "left behind" gets finished by other players, you will get a popup notifying you to pickup your rewards. There seems to be absolutely 0 downside to simply joining a raid as a glass cannon, unloading Damage on the boss as fast as possible, and then dying and clicking the "Go to my Page" option to repeat this in other raids.
To reiterate: NO YOU CAN'T "GIVE UP" ON DEMON BATTLES. THIS IS A GOOD THING. They don't time out after 1 hour either, so you can potentially wait a WHOLE DAY for your union members to finish off a boss for you.


These are my findings so far, with a few unconfirmed observations. If anyone tests them and finds out for sure, let me know and I'll fix the mistakes. Our union seems to be doing well with over 6.5m PP, 90 EX kills and 55 Ultimate kills as of 11 hours after event launch. With an active and strong union, the quotas seem well within reason

Good luck!