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    Quote Originally Posted by Raene View Post
    Thanks for the really informative answer!
    A few more questions relating to the above information:

    1) So similar to how most Events have a Red and Blue boss, this union event with have a Lillum(AP) boss and a Demon(BP) boss? Can both bosses can be selected individually from the quest menu, similar to the current Red/Blue system where you can choose which fight to start?
    So the goal will basically be to start the day fighting Lillums, then fight progressively more difficult Demons utilizing the buffs from the Lillum.

    2) Can a player call for support in defeating those bosses, and if so, are they only able to call support from their union, or are they able to call support from Friends or All players as well?

    3) You mentioned EX and Ultimate difficulties; What difficulties are available to be chosen from, and how does the "levellup" on the Demon interact with these difficulties?
    Are Beginner, Standard, Expert and Ultimate all available to be chosen from? Or is there a "chance-spawn" difficulty sometimes randomly unlocked upon finishing a battle?
    Both fight types can be started/joined at will at any difficulty, as far as I can tell. The Holy Crosses can be stocked and then used as needed by the guild leader, as I recall. So you can farm a massive number on the first day, enough to last through the entire event.

    The Lilim battles (Standard, Expert) can be joined by anyone, but the Demon battles (Expert, Ultimate) are union-only.
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Gift received at 10-19-2017 from Kitty
Message: my baka!!! it's...for you....! 
not that i wanted to do it for you or anything....buy i happened to buy 2 so......blah!!!!
    so basically the most important thing to get the rewards is to defeat as many expert/ultimate demon as they can provide the killing rewards and also give PP?
    also, what buff we get from that holy cross? and you said it's stackable so we can get more buffs of whatever it is?
    and damn, getting level up from each kill reminds me of that boss in dragon providence during corssover event XD

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    getting level up from each kill reminds me of that boss in dragon providence during corssover event
    dont remind me THAT boss, or ill go into drinking depression again.

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    So as I understand it, this union event won't reward any SSR weapons / himes / eidolons, mainly just new soul points for the newest souls?

    In terms of individual pp, does anyone have an estimate for the amount of time you'd need to invest into this to get all rewards (in comparison to raid events)?

    Does anyone have any recommendations on which souls I should be going for / which abilities are must haves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydjt View Post
    So as I understand it, this union event won't reward any SSR weapons / himes / eidolons, mainly just new soul points for the newest souls?

    In terms of individual pp, does anyone have an estimate for the amount of time you'd need to invest into this to get all rewards (in comparison to raid events)?

    Does anyone have any recommendations on which souls I should be going for / which abilities are must haves?
    It'll have SSR's. I know the weapon is a Light Staff with +atk skill, not what the other rewards are.

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    just wondering, is union event also have a gacha like raid events? or all the reward are collected from PP/union PP/ ex kill/ ultimate kill alone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raene View Post
    It'll have SSR's. I know the weapon is a Light Staff with +atk skill, not what the other rewards are.
    it does but that's only during it's reprint which is a year later.

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    My union has found out some information that others might find useful

    1) Buffs cap out at 400 per day, total.
    This means you should try to farm 400 Holy Grails per day. Buffs also seem to be limited at 99 Per category, though this is unconfirmed right now. If this is the case, we plan to spend 99 in Attack+, 99 in Double attack rate +, 99 in Tripple attack rate+, and 99 in burst damage+, which leftovers into HP or Affliction rate+
    From previous information earlier in this thread, buffs are reset daily, and must be spent again. For this cause, optimally try to prepare 400 grails in advance, and spend all 400 as soon as the day is reset.

    2) BOSS HAS ALOT OF DANGEROUS BUFFS. DISPEL THEM WITH CHAOS MAGIC ASAP.
    Chaos Magic is an EX skill gained from Levelling up Cassiopeia. The boss can often have as much as 3 buffs active at the same time, if not dispelled. These buffs are Attack+, Defense+, Double attack rate+, and Triple attack rate+
    The Attack+ buff is particularly lethal, level 40+ Ultimate Demons easily team-wiping our union in a single attack when not dispelled, even with precautions in place (defense buffs, attack debuffs on boss, etc).
    The Defense+ buff seems to cut our Damage Dealt in half, or less, making the boss extremely difficult to kill.
    For this cause our Union is bringing 5-6 Chaos Magic slotted heros to every raid. We also recommend plenty of Cassio/Andro heroes as these heros can heal every player's team, with our most veteran Dark-Mains bring DPS heros such as Arthur to do the heavy-lifting.
    We also highly recommend at least 1 Mordred per raid, to bring Black Propaganda for boss control, which lets others bring Chaos Magic or Attack/Defense debuffs like Sniper Shot.

    3) No SSR's or Rankings in this event. The DMM version had SSR's only in the REPRINT, aka the rerun of this event, which wont appear in the Nutaku version for roughly another ~9months(?).

    4) You aren't limited to 1 raid at a time.
    If you die in a demon raid, simply join another raid! You can seemingly participate in as many simultaneous Lillim and Demon battles as you wish, though I have at most only managed to be part of 2 Demon battles and a Lillim battle at the same time;
    When a Raid that you "left behind" gets finished by other players, you will get a popup notifying you to pickup your rewards. There seems to be absolutely 0 downside to simply joining a raid as a glass cannon, unloading Damage on the boss as fast as possible, and then dying and clicking the "Go to my Page" option to repeat this in other raids.
    To reiterate: NO YOU CAN'T "GIVE UP" ON DEMON BATTLES. THIS IS A GOOD THING. They don't time out after 1 hour either, so you can potentially wait a WHOLE DAY for your union members to finish off a boss for you.


    These are my findings so far, with a few unconfirmed observations. If anyone tests them and finds out for sure, let me know and I'll fix the mistakes. Our union seems to be doing well with over 6.5m PP, 90 EX kills and 55 Ultimate kills as of 11 hours after event launch. With an active and strong union, the quotas seem well within reason

    Good luck!
    Last edited by Raene; 07-13-2017 at 11:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydjt View Post
    In terms of individual pp, does anyone have an estimate for the amount of time you'd need to invest into this to get all rewards (in comparison to raid events)?
    For individuals, the PP tiers are the same as raid events, so expect a similar level of commitment to be required. Maxing Union PP will require 13 individuals with that same level of commitment.

    In other words: better find a union filled with players of a similar activity level quick before the event starts.
    Last edited by sanahtlig; 07-10-2017 at 06:58 PM.
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    about time to join a strong union

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