Thread: [Event 14] Crucible of Combat vs The Demon Pride Union Event

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Wiki says

バーストダメージアップ　Lv1毎に+1.5% (バースト倍率に加算)　例：バフLv100� ��SSR神姫のバースト倍率が5倍(500%)か� �6.5倍(650%)に

Google translates to
Burst Damage Increment + 1.5% per Lv 1 (Add to Burst Magnification) Example: SSF Shinki burst magnification increases from 5 times (500%) to 6.5 times (650%) with buff Lv 100
(Not sure why google translates SSR to SSF but the original Japanese text says SSR)

What this means is that for an SSR and a Burst buff at 100 stacks, Burst damage increases by 25%. But Burst damage is only a fraction of your sustained damage, usually less than half, so divide by 2.5. So the Burst buff increases your team's sustained DPS by about 10%. Meanwhile double attack/triple attack not only increase your sustained DPS, they also allow you to Burst more often, so I can definitely see how those would be preferable.

Yea, the burst boost was rather disappointing. Thinking +150% to total burst damage was too much of wishful thinking. Going from 1mil to 2.5mil burst damage would be broken. Though I'm thinking it still fits in for best combination for grails still uses it. Maybe:
100 atk
100 hp
100 burst
100 triple atk

Kinda wish they gave us the values for triple and double attack. I mean I can't really see any reason to get double over triple, unless triple has a smaller increase rate compared to double.

Well, +burst is still useful for a union whose strategy is people jumping in during burst time, unleash their burst, and don't care what happens afterwards.

...but for the union I'm in, now I'm strongly leaning towards double atk or triple atk over burst.

Double atk does have a higher base rate compared to triple, so if the bonus is multiplying by their base rates (as opposed to adding some flat bonus), then maybe +double is a lower ceiling/higher floor type choice?

Ah, that's probably a good way to look at it.

We had both at 100 (with atk and hp) yesterday for my union and it helps a lot with juggling ultimate back and forth between stun and rage. If you're soloing and know what you're doing, it helps a ton with stalling overdrive.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Kinda wish they gave us the values for triple and double attack. I mean I can't really see any reason to get double over triple, unless triple has a smaller increase rate compared to double.

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Not sure how the buffs modify that.

just checked the page of lilim's event and the requirement to collect all the rewards is different.
i guess it's the requirement for the next one when lilim and her weapon are available as a reward, but it'll take a loooong time for it -_-

Our Union ended up using

100 Attack
100 Double
100 Triple
50 HP
50 Burst

I think this is a pretty good middle ground, Attack, double and triple attack rates are must-haves at 100 imho. The last 100 points can be divided amongst Burst, HP and Affliction success rate, depending on your union's preferences.

We've found that Ultimate demons start becoming undoable for us somewhere in the level 65-70 range, so we're limited to about ~75 ultimate kills per day. Likewise for Expert, Demons are becoming extremely difficult above level 110~115, limiting us to about 120 EX kills per day.
Maybe if we had more rank 90+ players we could do higher, but at this point it stops being economical on our BP's to attempt demons. People start farming Lillims for PP instead once this happens, and we quickly ended up stockpiling excess Grails.

i have to say, i kind of manage to do well in this event, but it's just because my strongest team is dark.
i really not sure what will happen in next union event as my fire team have few weapons and not as good kami in it.
so... i've thought to focus on fire team for the time being till the wind union event starts so i can at least get a good grid for it
luckily we'll have fire advent and fire raid before it so i can get 2 SSR weapon and 2 SR attack type weapons that can help with my grid.
or...maybe it's a bad thinking and i should stick to my dark team? maybe they have no weakness but they're not strong to wind either, so in high level demon i may have a problem to survive compared other players that use fire team?

Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

i have to say, i kind of manage to do well in this event, but it's just because my strongest team is dark.
i really not sure what will happen in next union event as my fire team have few weapons and not as good kami in it.
so... i've thought to focus on fire team for the time being till the wind union event starts so i can at least get a good grid for it
luckily we'll have fire advent and fire raid before it so i can get 2 SSR weapon and 2 SR attack type weapons that can help with my grid.
or...maybe it's a bad thinking and i should stick to my dark team? maybe they have no weakness but they're not strong to wind either, so in high level demon i may have a problem to survive compared other players that use fire team?

I was under the impression it would be a Typhon vs Garuda event, with both fire+wind simultaneously, similar to the dark+light Apocalypse VS Phoenix a couple weeks back.

Originally Posted by Raene

I was under the impression it would be a Typhon vs Garuda event, with both fire+wind simultaneously, similar to the dark+light Apocalypse VS Phoenix a couple weeks back.

i don't know when the rematch of garuda and typhon gonna be, but there is a chance of it to be in 2-3 months as well.
think they do rematch of 2 advent event on the same time, but new one come after some weeks as we also have union and raid events.
so it may take some time..