Thread: [Event 14] Crucible of Combat vs The Demon Pride Union Event

Looks like we did get the no eidolon/weapon version.

Yeap looks like it, 2 Souls to unlock with Holy SPs you can earn during the event, also alot of Grimoires and SP to be had.

I can share a few nuggets of wisdom in the smashing ive been doing tonight (mostly solo being in Australia). Been using this party so far and has been working well: Andromeda (Sniper Shot EX skill), Satan, Susanoo, Beelzebub and Sol, with Amon Unleashed and Amaterasu in the reserves. Apocalypse as the Eidolon.

- The Overdrive attack from the Ultimate demon isnt honestly that bad in Rage mode, usually averages about 2k damage on your party if your doing appropriate debuffs but its alot of scattered attacks.
- Having 2 healers for Ultimate helps alot here, its a bit of a slog (im using Andromeda and Sol myself). Level 5 Ultimate demon for example has 3.8 million HP.
- Have a dispel in your party is important here! The Ultimate demon when it uses its Overdrive attack in non-rage mode gets a +ATK buff that causes her basic attacks to do 4k+ damage each. Sol is a great choice here if you have her, save her Red ability to dispel that buff. (Seems to be up often enough for this, you will push her into Rage pretty often)
- Ive been using my Grails (the ones you get from doing Lilims) for +ATK, +HP, +Recovery and +Triple ATK, would love some more info on the best buffs here.
- If you have a decent party you can just auto battle the expert Lilim and the expert Demons (my Dark team has 39K attack so your mileage may vary) they are pretty straight forward.

Not feeling very confident in this event so far for getting the new Souls... and I was really hoping to get Morgan (know she's not out yet).
Do all of the Union events use the same Holy P as rewards? Because I feel like it'll take like 3 or 4 events worth to get enough for them all.

Here's some stats on progress to shoot for each day. This is based on an 8-day event duration and striving for max rewards.
Individual PP: 375k/day (3mil max)
Union PP: 5mil/day (40mil max), or 14 members each aiming for max individual PP
Demon Subjugation (Expert): 37.5/day (300 max), or 2.7/day for 14 active members
Demon Subjugation (Ultimate): Same as Expert
Hallowed Grails: 400/day max, or 28.5/day for 14 active members (~5 Lilim Experts)

Those who can clear Ultimate should be focusing on that, and letting weaker members handle the Demon Experts. 5 soloed Ultimates a day is a good quota to shoot for (more if you get help from others). If you can't do Ultimates, aim for 6-9 soloed Demon Experts a day (more if you get help) and farm more than your share of Hallowed Grails for your union.

Holy P should be shared throughout all the events. My irk about this though is I didn't expect regular Soul P would be a reward. Meh.

i was a little surprised, after reset i tried to battle level 1 ultimate demon and she had something around 3M HP, and it was just level 1.
for now i think i did well, even though i was at work and was limited i got 322K PP while i was there+ another 800K+ PP from burst time (had to got about 15 min before burst time is over for...dinner...damn early dinner..)
anyway, i unlocked the standard new soul, not gonna use her now but maybe i'll train her after the event.
and to be honest i've thought to record my battle with demon, but with all the buff and members joining the battle it won't feel the same as the others.
so instead i recorded my battle with lilim, either enjoy it or get bored and curse me for wasting X min of your time XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3des...ature=youtu.be

Yea, if you're strong enough and log on early, you can solo the the lower level ones to net a large amount of PP. Early bird gets the worm as they say?

I don't want to burn through my elixirs and seeds so I'm going to take it a little easy on this event. The union I'm in is active enough we should be done with everything in ~3 days depending on how difficult ultimate gets.

Edit: Nevermind that, I didn't see how many ultimates we needed, might be longer than expected, rest will be done rather quickly though.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Yea, if you're strong enough and log on early, you can solo the the lower level ones to net a large amount of PP. Early bird gets the worm as they say?

I don't want to burn through my elixirs and seeds so I'm going to take it a little easy on this event. The union I'm in is active enough we should be done with everything in ~3 days depending on how difficult ultimate gets.

yea, though i may not be able to do so everyday as reset time is about 10AM for me, but still happy i could solo 1 with no bonus, even though it was just level 1 XD

and the only reason i may spam more seeds on it is for the weapon material thing, have multiple of weapon that i want to level up so it can help me nicely with it.

Is there any reason 'not' to use the Grails up right away to give active buffs for the day? Especially when I'm in a Union that will probably only be able to clear a handful of Ultimates per day? Not many high ranking/active/"strong" members. I'm the most likely one who will contribute the most with my 29k Dark team. I nearly solo'd Lv1 Ultimate with no buffs just to see how it was but died close to the end. And that's fine, but if the union buffs should be applied right away without (any?) regard to the grails then I'll apply them right away to help the collective.

X-posted from the other union thread, as others may see it here better.

My union has found out some information that others might find useful

1) Buffs cap out at 400 per day, total.
This means you should try to farm 400 Holy Grails per day. Buffs also seem to be limited at 99 Per category, though this is unconfirmed right now. If this is the case, we plan to spend 99 in Attack+, 99 in Double attack rate +, 99 in Tripple attack rate+, and 99 in burst damage+, with leftovers into HP or Affliction rate+
From previous information earlier in this thread, buffs are reset daily, and must be spent again. For this cause, optimally try to prepare 400 grails in advance, and spend all 400 as soon as the day is reset.

2) BOSS HAS ALOT OF DANGEROUS BUFFS. DISPEL THEM WITH CHAOS MAGIC ASAP.
Chaos Magic is an EX skill gained from Levelling up Cassiopeia. The boss can often have as much as 3 buffs active at the same time, if not dispelled. These buffs are Attack+, Defense+, Double attack rate+, and Triple attack rate+
The Attack+ buff is particularly lethal, level 40+ Ultimate Demons easily team-wiping our union in a single attack when not dispelled, even with precautions in place (defense buffs, attack debuffs on boss, etc).
The Defense+ buff seems to cut our Damage Dealt in half, or less, making the boss extremely difficult to kill.
For this cause our Union is bringing 5-6 Chaos Magic slotted heros to every raid. We also recommend plenty of Cassio/Andro heroes as these heros can heal every player's team, with our most veteran Dark-Mains bring DPS heros such as Arthur or Siegfried to do the heavy-lifting.
We also highly recommend at least 1 Mordred per raid, to bring Black Propaganda for boss control, which lets others bring Chaos Magic or Attack/Defense debuffs like Sniper Shot.

Our union is quite well coordinated on discord, so our Dark-Main veterans are able to call for Andro/Cassio heals when their teams get low, and our Siegfrieds are able to call their ready-Fullbursts at which case we'll stun the boss, and wait for their attack before continuing killing the boss (Usually, these bursts are hitting 3-4mil+). We're using coordinated Stickers as signals, with certain stickers meaning "Heal now"(break time!), and another meaning "Dispel now"(Go go!), and another that indicates a Sieg has their fullburst ready(I'm up next!). Discord is extremely helpful but I could honestly see just sticker-communication being every effective too, as long as you assign a meaning to each sticker.


3) No SSR's or Rankings in this event. The DMM version had SSR's only in the REPRINT, aka the rerun of this event, which wont appear in the Nutaku version for roughly another ~9months(?).

4) You aren't limited to 1 raid at a time.
If you die in a demon raid, simply join another raid! You can seemingly participate in as many simultaneous Lillim and Demon battles as you wish, though I have at most only managed to be part of 2 Demon battles and a Lillim battle at the same time;
When a Raid that you "left behind" gets finished by other players, you will get a popup notifying you to pickup your rewards. There seems to be absolutely 0 downside to simply joining a raid as a glass cannon, unloading Damage on the boss as fast as possible, and then dying and clicking the "Go to my Page" option to repeat this in other raids.
To reiterate: NO YOU CAN'T "GIVE UP" ON DEMON BATTLES. THIS IS A GOOD THING. They don't time out after 1 hour either, so you can potentially wait a WHOLE DAY for your union members to finish off a boss for you.


These are my findings so far, with a few unconfirmed observations. If anyone tests them and finds out for sure, let me know and I'll fix the mistakes. I'm REALLY enjoying this event so far, it's nice having the union members all working together and strategising together awesome plans and good execution.

Good luck!



Here was our union's progress after ~11 hours of launch so far. We plan to almost double these numbers once our Burst Times appear and more of our heavy-hitters log on for the day, and we start spending Seeds.