Thread: [Event 15] Advent Battle vs Yatagarasu

Ragnarok Yatagarasu is kind of a pushover. The low difficulty is probably an outlier in the grand scheme of events. e.g. Ragnarok Ixion, or the upcoming Ragnarok Vuithra. I think when Japan DMM first designed Ragnarok and the Core reward, they didn't have downstream usage for the core except for exchanging the Rare Grail. Later when SSR divine awakening arrives that tie in with the core exchangable for draconic eye shards, I think the advent Ragnarok will get harder and harder, just because the rewards have a greater usability.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

I said SSRs cause I meant SSRs.

And your point about same source sounds as if you're implying you have a equal chance of getting everything, which you don't.

Yet, the source is the same - either real money or Jewels. Chance to get SSR Hime is about 1.1% per draw I think, not sure about SR Hime.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Case in point, this particular advent's ragnarok is doable without SSR kamihime.

Sure. But how about without SRs?

Originally Posted by Slashley

Yet, the source is the same - either real money or Jewels. Chance to get SSR Hime is about 1.1% per draw I think, not sure about SR Hime.

Sure. But how about without SRs?

That point of "they're both from the source" has no meaning to this matter, so I don't know why you bothered to mention it. Which is why I'm saying your implication that you can obtain SR and SSR from the same gacha is irrelevant to being able to clear content in the game without relying on SSR himes.

And I'm not sure why you keep bringing up this R only hime ordeal. No one said anything about R only but you.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Yet, the source is the same - either real money or Jewels.

Technically, no. You can play for a long time and slowly build a team of SR himes from Raid events. And if you play for really long, that team may even be mono-element. Add to that your level will naturally increase the longer you play, Ragnarok is indeed doable without any SSR, if you know how to maximize the resources you have in terms of hime/soul skill sets

Originally Posted by Aidoru

You don't need SSR himes to clear content, you just need to know what you're doing. Unlike every other game on the site, you need to put some effort into this game as it can actually be difficult to clear content unlike other games where you can just blindly go in.



Weapons and eidolons provide additional HP and ATK to all your himes and soul, regardless of element. Weapon skills only apply to himes/soul of same element. Your soul's main element is determined by your main hand weapon. Eidolons can be used regardless of element, there is a small buff for using the same element but that's not something you need to worry about until you have a large enough roster to care about. Your main eidolon needs to be one with a passive skill that works with your team.

We can't help go in detail if you don't tell us about your set up.

This was the latest party I tried to use.



Weapons



Eidolons



Here is my full rooster

I pretty much hit auto on Standard

On Expert it takes me about 1 to 2 Elixirs to go thru

oops mixed up Expert w/ Ultimate

Ultimate took like 5 Elixirs ~ I don't remember

3 main ways to improve:

1. Make your whole team mono-element, in this case water. Find some water staff or something for Cass if you want to use her as soul. Also replace Baphomet with Oceanus. Amon is okay with the skill to block affliction but she isn't taking advantage of elemental bonus.
2. Make your whole weapon grid mono-element. Yes SSR weapons do seem attractive by stat but those +HP and +atk bonus from the wrong elements are not working for you. I.e. Susanoo's thunder sword isn't giving you as much bang for the buck.
3. Your eidolons need boost. Feed them a lot of upgrade material.

Also: analyze why Expert didn't go well for you. Did you lose too much HP in the pre-boss mob fights? Do you have insufficient damage to kill boss before your HP drains away quickly? Did the boss cast any buff/debuff that mess up your strategy? Isolate the cause and work from there.

Yea, the harping on about R's is rather random since the original comment that kicked this off specified SSRs

But as something to think about it for fun...
Given sufficient base attack and assault, this ragnarok may be doable with just R's by the 3rd time this event rolls around. (gasp, 2nd reprints are a thing? Apparently so as the latest event on DMM that just ended today is Ixion for the 3rd time). I'm thinking of Fire in particular. Why? Konohana Sakuya. She's an R with a Sniper Shot on 10 turn cooldown, plus a 500 HP party heal every 5 turns. 10 turns is a long time, but if you're experienced enough to accrue the atk and assault necessary for this, you'll play fast enough.
10% A-frame debuffs from Baphomet and Nergal
For that 5th slot... I guess the Fire variant of Mephistopheles and try to land the 2nd skill (backup B-frame debuffs, plus the fire resist debuff would be quite useful). 1st skill is a pile of DoTs+blind+dizzy. The time spent on processing all the DoTs may or may not be worth it?
You can run either Cassio or Andromeda with Black Propaganda, depending on how you weigh the extra 400 HP per 5 turns vs Chaos Magic.
It still won't be easy, but it wouldn't surprise me if in the future, some DMM player pulls it off.

Water.... maaaybe? I'm not confident in water here because I don't see any of its R's having atk/def debuffs. Still, you have tools to play with.
Sequana - single target 350/500 HP heal + 1000 damage barrier every 3 turns? Is that right? Single target debuff removal + debuff block on 5 turn cooldown
Ganga/Ganges - party-wide debuff remover + 2 turn debuff resist buff every 8 turns. Oh, and a single target damage skill, whatever.
Dagon - -15%/-25% rage meter every 8 turns. Attempt to reduce enemy charge by 1 every 6 turns.
Apsu - party-wide regen for total of 750 HP every 6 turns. And a single target damage skill, whatever.
Kushinada with her single target 800 HP heal every 5 turns is an option to replace Ganga or Dagon, depending on your exact strategy.
I'm thinking Cassio with Sniper Shot plus Jormungandr buddy.

Originally Posted by asukabestwaifu

This was the latest party I tried to use.

Yea, a 22k dual element team would probably have trouble. A full water team however, might have been able to handle it.

If you had more water weapons, you should gone all water instead with Melusine (eidolon), Oceanus, Triton, and Nike. Amon might be okay depending on what's actually killing you, if it isn't the debuffs/afflictions, then you can replace her for a R water hime. Though depending on what souls you have available, you could make it easier or harder on yourself by what skills/debuffs you lack, this team is rather lacking in the debuffs, but the elemental advantage might be enough for expert.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

That point of "they're both from the source" has no meaning to this matter, --

Except it does. Since they are from the same source, if you have access to SSRs, then you have access to SRs (probably almost all of them since we're talking plural here). If you don't have access to SSRs, then you don't really have access to SRs either (though exceptions are sure to exist, especially if we're talking one or two Elements only).

This game does a pitiful job at giving more tools to players who don't pay. If you don't have tools, then how do you "just need to know what you're doing" to solve your problems? So, again. Define "content" - does that or does that not include Ragnarok? And if it does, can you clear Ragnarok with R Himes only?

Originally Posted by noxybell

Technically, no. You can play for a long time and slowly build a team of SR himes from Raid events. --

From the ones I've gotten, the only one which is good is Balor. And even that's questionable if you have Mordred, I guess. I call them "pity SRs" for most of them are just leveled up for Jewels and then forgotten forever.

Well, I guess Tezcatlipoca is alright-ish. Gabriel seems quite alright, shame I don't have her. And never will, since raids aren't reprinted.