Thread: Sanahtlig's Kamihime Project Game Guide

Originally Posted by Unregistered

So now I ask myself, should I quit or should I waste 10x the amount of time a whale pays to get one (or multiple)? I honestly don't know, on the fence with this personal question.

Depends what your goal is. Do you want to be better than everyone else? Do you want to be able to complete all available content? Do you have a certain milestone you're aiming for, like completing Ultimates or Advent Ragnaroks? How much are you willing to pay? What's your tolerance for grind? Are you an obsessive collector that absolutely needs every character?

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Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Do you want to be better than everyone else?

Nah.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Do you want to be able to complete all available content?

Yes. The way I see the future of this game is events becoming much harder to complete unless you're the embodiment of luck itself, that or you pay for infinite tries. Would I still be playing in the far future to see it actually happen? Not sure.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Do you have a certain milestone you're aiming for, like completing Ultimates or Advent Ragnaroks?

Sort of, but not exactly. Above is my main concern.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

How much are you willing to pay?

None, not because I don't want to keep the game running.. but I can't really afford to spend any. So I'm strictly F2P, which adds onto my main concern.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

What's your tolerance for grind?

I'm completely fine with grind as long as I know I'll get something in return, and it seems reasonable. An example of grind I won't even bother is the 4 million copy of Dullahan lol. I reached 1.6 million PP, but 4 million? that's too much and worth less than the time it requires. I only draw from Jewel gacha when the drop-rate is up for what I need.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Are you an obsessive collector that absolutely needs every character?

Nah, I only 3-star most event Eidolons and unless I really need a weapon.. don't even LB it at all. Right now my teams are shit since I'm sort of new and never rerolled. I feel it's too late now that I'm R60 almost and just don't feel like doing everything again.

I'm just concerned that as a F2P player that didn't reroll and has subpar setups (and luck) that eventually events will become too hard to complete in a timely manner. I don't want to be doing 1150+ Standard runs when I could be doing 150+ Ultimate runs. Since they introduced 100% (120% if maxed) Eidolons, then who's to say they won't release 200 or even 300%.. or come up with an entirely new rarity that is even harder to get than SSR lol. The best Eidolons / Himes / Weapons may become a requirement just to complete events. These are all what-ifs I know, but the game is already time-consuming enough as it is.

I've learned almost everything I need to know about the game, it's just RNGesus is my bane.. that and the habit of typing walls of text.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

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Nah.

Yes. The way I see the future of this game is events becoming much harder to complete unless you're the embodiment of luck itself, that or you pay for infinite tries. Would I still be playing in the far future to see it actually happen? Not sure.

Sort of, but not exactly. Above is my main concern.

None, not because I don't want to keep the game running.. but I can't really afford to spend any. So I'm strictly F2P, which adds onto my main concern.

I'm completely fine with grind as long as I know I'll get something in return, and it seems reasonable. An example of grind I won't even bother is the 4 million copy of Dullahan lol. I reached 1.6 million PP, but 4 million? that's too much and worth less than the time it requires. I only draw from Jewel gacha when the drop-rate is up for what I need.

Nah, I only 3-star most event Eidolons and unless I really need a weapon.. don't even LB it at all. Right now my teams are shit since I'm sort of new and never rerolled. I feel it's too late now that I'm R60 almost and just don't feel like doing everything again.

I'm just concerned that as a F2P player that didn't reroll and has subpar setups (and luck) that eventually events will become too hard to complete in a timely manner. I don't want to be doing 1150+ Standard runs when I could be doing 150+ Ultimate runs. Since they introduced 100% (120% if maxed) Eidolons, then who's to say they won't release 200 or even 300%.. or come up with an entirely new rarity that is even harder to get than SSR lol. The best Eidolons / Himes / Weapons may become a requirement just to complete events. These are all what-ifs I know, but the game is already time-consuming enough as it is.

I've learned almost everything I need to know about the game, it's just RNGesus is my bane.. that and the habit of typing walls of text.

I don't have a magic ball, nor have I played the DMM version, but here's my take on the rising difficulty curve that is sometimes brought up:
The game is balanced around the assumption that the player has ample time or money. If you stay active over the course of many months (grabbing at least the low-hanging fruit rewards from all events, and building up at least one team) and you understand mechanics, you will always be able to complete Advent Ultimates. Your success in Advent Ragnaroks will depend on what the Gatcha gives you. Finally, you likely won't be able to complete the final stage of the accessory quests, which is designed to challenge even the hardcore whales. That'll make accessory farming a little less efficient, but that won't impact your ability to clear other content. You'll never be a top-tier player, but that doesn't seem to be your goal.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

I don't have a magic ball, nor have I played the DMM version, but here's my take on the rising difficulty curve that is sometimes brought up:
The game is balanced around the assumption that the player has ample time or money. If you stay active over the course of many months (grabbing at least the low-hanging fruit rewards from all events, and building up at least one team) and you understand mechanics, you will always be able to complete Advent Ultimates. Your success in Advent Ragnaroks will depend on what the Gatcha gives you. Finally, you likely won't be able to complete the final stage of the accessory quests, which is designed to challenge even the hardcore whales. That'll make accessory farming a little less efficient, but that won't impact your ability to clear other content. You'll never be a top-tier player, but that doesn't seem to be your goal.

Thanks, you convinced me to keep playing. I'll have to make an altar for RNGesus soon, though he was kind to me this time around.. dropped 2 copies of Dullahan from blue tickets allowing me to MLB.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Depends what your goal is. Do you want to be better than everyone else? Do you want to be able to complete all available content? Do you have a certain milestone you're aiming for, like completing Ultimates or Advent Ragnaroks? How much are you willing to pay? What's your tolerance for grind? Are you an obsessive collector that absolutely needs every character?

YES!! give me all the himes n eidolons. too bad rngesus is practically my nemesis. lol

on a serious note thou, about that stackin debuff. does that mean if i use snipeshot + amatersu solar eclipse debuff. it would be 40% instead of just 20%? or does it only work when combinin the a, b, n c-slot debuffs? (kinda confused)

Originally Posted by omelletetherice

on a serious note thou, about that stackin debuff. does that mean if i use snipeshot + amatersu solar eclipse debuff. it would be 40% instead of just 20%? or does it only work when combinin the a, b, n c-slot debuffs? (kinda confused)

Have you read the buff/debuffs section of my Google Doc guide?

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Have you read the buff/debuffs section of my Google Doc guide?

nope, since i kinda learned through playin. thought that when ppl said stackin there was someway to increase the debuff through using same power debuff. but if all they mean is a, b, c, n eidolon/burst debuffs, than i guess thats that.

How to get strong quickly

A stronger team is more efficient
Clearing higher difficulty content gives much better rewards, especially in solo content, therefore your goal should be to get stronger as quickly as possible to clear Expert and Ultimate difficulties in Advent events.

Focus on one element for weapon grid upgrades
You have limited resources. Switching betweeen different-element teams to make use of elemental advantage can be effective early on, but you can use the same weapon grid for each team. Focusing your resources on one element will make late-game easier. See Advantages of a primary, dominant-element team for more on this.

R weapons and SR eidolons aren’t worth investing in
You’ll be getting rid of these quickly. Invest in off-element SR weapons or SSR eidolons instead. Don’t limit-break R weapons; save them for skill XP fodder.

LB0 Gatcha SSR eidolons are worse than event SSRs
They’re nice filler until you have a full grid of SSR eidolons, but don’t plan your team around them since their stats are severely capped. The sole exception is the +100% elemental attack eidolons. Plan your team around those and count on using them forever.

Farm events for a full grid of SSR eidolons
SSR eidolons from events will account for most of your team’s early growth. Element doesn’t matter much. Max level DOES. Farm as many copies as you can, up to 5. In general, prioritize SSR eidolons over SSR weapons, except when the SSR weapon matches your primary element AND isn’t Defender. Those will be situational cases that will depend on how useful the eidolon (mainly the passive buff) is.

Farm your team element’s Disaster to build your arsenal of Assault weapons
You can start 3 battles a day for each difficulty level, for a total of 6. Each battle can drop two platinum chests: one for spawning the boss, and one for MVP. SR weapons can drop from the platinum chests, and one of the three has Assault skill. There’s no difference in drop rate between difficulties, so prioritize Normal difficulty. Consider creating 2 alts to make use of BP, though the drop rate is much lower without the spawn chest. Make sure you get the MVP. During Advent events, focus your AP on event battles instead.

Level your weapons and eidolons equally
Weapons and eidolons gain stats linearly with level, but each subsequent level takes increasingly more XP. You shouldn’t be sacrificing weapons and eidolons for limit breaks until you have a full grid.

Focus your limit breaks on one copy
Your end goal is to have 10 max limit break weapons. Don’t do anything that will slow progress towards that.

Level weapon skills with an eye on endgame
Assault skill will take precedence over others. Level assault skill equally among weapons, but don’t level copies that will later be sacrificed for limit breaks. Raise SSR assault weapons to ½ the skill level of SRs. Don’t bother raising R weapons other than as skll XP fodder.

Challenging Advent Ragnaroks

Advent Ragnaroks are balanced around a maxed neutral-element team.
Your attack power as listed on the main screen should be around 40k, and your +ATK from weapon skills should be at +100% / avg SLVL 15. Less than that and your damage output and HP will likely be lacking--unless you have elemental advantage.

Debuffs and utility skills are critical.
You’ll need a source of overdrive gauge extension (e.g., Mordred’s Black Propaganda) and encounter-specific utility skills such as cleanse (Maiden’s Prayer) and dispel (Chaos Magic). In general, you’ll also need strong debuffs: aim for -30% or more ATK and DEF down. Blind and combo attack down are also handy.

Healing is useful.
You’ll likely need at least one healer--unless your damage output is especially high.

SSR kamihime will increase your damage potential
Many fights are a race against the Rage bar. If you can’t deplete it in time, you’ll take massive damage that will likely overwhelm even highly defensive teams. SSR kamihime have big bonuses to Burst damage and damage skills that will help you deplete the Rage bar, ideally before the 3rd overdrive.

In response to demand, I created an in-depth Rerolling Guide "Rerolling: How to get FREE SSR kamihime". What follows is an outline.

Rerolling: How to get FREE SSR kamihime
What is rerolling?
Why reroll?
Who should reroll?
How long will rerolling take me?
Using rerolling to build a near-optimal team
How to reroll
Instructions