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  1. #11

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    I'd say that Tyr defines Thunder entirely into a "Burst your enemy down during Stun" element. Tyr is also the only KH in Thunder who has a proper debuff... if you can call 10% a proper one, 15% when awakened. That makes Thunder struggle, as you're entirely reliant on your Soul for debuffs.

    Either that, or Thor for Paralysis.

    Near the end of January, Mardook will have -20% Atk at least. C frame too. That's just barely in range of the second Miracle ticket, I guess.


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    currently have satan, susanoo, hades and sol. planning to replace satan with amon and sol with osiris. party will have 45% def down, 40% attack down, blind, dizziness, block conditions, multi hit down, def up and susanoo as heavy damage dealer. hades and susanoo also have awakened forms which is useful

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    For Dark, the two top tier Gods are:

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    New Years Amaterasu

    B frame -20% to attack and defense (same a Sniper Shot)
    Add a dot to Bosses overdrive meter (same as black propaganda)
    500 regen/turn for 3 turns


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    Thanatos

    C frame -20%
    Ensure at least 2x attack for 3 turns
    25% burst increase and nuke (3.5x)

    Unsure if either of them can be picked using Miracle Ticket.

    Dream team, if I could pick any 4 dark SSRs, would probably be New Years Amaterasu, Thanatos, Pluto, and Satan.
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    You get -50% defense, -35% attack, 2 extra turns before overdrive on a boss, -30% damage cut, damage buffs, multi-attacks, and the freedom to choose whatever heroic spirit you want.

    Satan can be replaced with Osiris for more reliable burst/heals, Amon for rage control, Hades for bad status control, or Susanoo for raw damage.

    Pluto is for damage cut, plus she adds tons of damage but could be subbed just like Satan.
    Last edited by HoroBoro; 08-24-2017 at 08:33 PM.

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    you can't get New Years Amaterasu with miracle ticket. thanatos can be bought with the miracle ticket but i believe they won't be available to buy until the second ticket around around march

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    How do you get 3300 heal over 3 turns, Dark Amaterasu's Regen is self target, as is Satan's Lifesteal

  6. #16
    so now i have to decide do i go fire or water for the miracle ticket when it comes out ...

    fire: current team --> Ares, Acala (move to sub, replace with Svalog), Agni (replace with Amaterasu), Brynhildr

    water: current team --> Triron (Replace with Cthulhu), Gabriel, Aphrodite, Nike SR (Replace with SSR Nike)

    which one should i go for?

    ps: sol was on my list but if only i got more than 2 from gem before miracle ticket arrive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    How do you get 3300 heal over 3 turns, Dark Amaterasu's Regen is self target, as is Satan's Lifesteal
    Well technically, it is still 3300 heal over 3 turns, 1500 for Dark Amaterasu and at least 1800 for Satan. But yea - I thought it would be for the whole team. Doesn't really matter.

    If you need sustain, sub in a healing heroic spirit and Osiris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AznSamsung View Post
    so now i have to decide do i go fire or water for the miracle ticket when it comes out ...

    fire: current team --> Ares, Acala (move to sub, replace with Svalog), Agni (replace with Amaterasu), Brynhildr

    water: current team --> Triron (Replace with Cthulhu), Gabriel, Aphrodite, Nike SR (Replace with SSR Nike)

    which one should i go for?

    ps: sol was on my list but if only i got more than 2 from gem before miracle ticket arrive
    Your Fire team will likely be lacking ATK Down, and you'll be using Mordred with Ambush most of the time. It'll have very high damage potential.

    Your Water team will be better balanced. You'll have stronger heals, a cleanse, combo attack down, and you'll likely be using Mordred with Sniper Shot most of the time. You'll have access to full debuffs and high base damage due to capped DEF down. Access to Jorm as Friend eidolon means you'll have nearly capped ATK down too.

    Water seems like the stronger option to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    The intent of this topic is generating discussion about the must-have kamihime for each element, and what a nearly-optimal team would look like that doesn't depend too much on RNG or having rerolled 1000x.

    This is the general consensus on first picks I've seen:
    Water: Cthulhu
    Fire: Amaterasu or maybe Svarog
    Wind: Gaia
    Thunder: ?
    Light: Sol
    Dark: ?
    This is a good list of top choices but when I think of tier list I generally think of a ranking that lists all the available stuff from top to bottom. Maybe we can put together a listing of all SSRs by usefulness.

    I think for fire, amaterasu is the consensus first pick, fire really needs it for debuffs and svarog only shines after awakening.
    Thunder is in a really awkward position right now in general, all the SSRs are mediocre in my opinion, there isn't a clear front runner.
    As for dark, dark amaterasu and thanatos are indeed the strongest picks but they are not available for the first miracle (dark amaterasu is seasonal so it won't be in miracle in general). I would probably pick osiris as the best of the bunch for the first miracle but hades, susanoo, and ssr amon are all decent choices.

    So I would say something like:
    Water: Cthulhu
    Fire: Amaterasu
    Wind: Gaia
    Thunder: N/A - Flip a coin
    Light: Sol
    Dark: Osiris

  10. #20
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    is thanatos really necessary if you have SSR amon and doesnt C frame def down miss alot anyway?

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