Thread: Which Kamis to go for with Miracle Tickets?

Originally Posted by Slashley

If you're not fixated on min/maxing, why is Thunder not usable but Light is?

If I had to guess, I would say it's maybe because thunder is lacking general utilities that's easier to get from other elements or because thunder is heavily reliant on its SSRs himes. I recall someone saying Thunder is the 'expensive team'.

Originally Posted by Lizrake

Well... I guess the RNG gods chose for me...
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Not sure what this has to do with the topic.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

If I had to guess, I would say it's maybe because thunder is lacking general utilities that's easier to get from other elements or--

Ah, but that's the point. Since that's exactly min/maxing.

As for SSRs, hmm. Hard to say. There's a couple of decent SRs for Thunder, but generally no element will do "well" without at least one SR. Dark will probably be best off if we get Koihime, since Nyarl-LuBu will have -30% Atk Def covered. And then there's Beelz, the queen of SRs.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

If I had to guess, I would say it's maybe because thunder is lacking general utilities that's easier to get from other elements or because thunder is heavily reliant on its SSRs himes. I recall someone saying Thunder is the 'expensive team'.

Thunder is lacking core debuffs, especially right now. Look at Slashley's team from the video he just posted. He has a pretty good team, yet he's still only fielding -25% ATK and -30% DEF, and he's relying on Mordred's -10% class B debuff. On top of that, he has no healing, so if that Ragnarok boss came at the end of a series of trash and no healing potions dropped, he'd be in serious trouble. Thunder has to compensate for this fragility with overwhelming damage, enough to end the fight quickly before attrition sets in. That means it won't do well without multiple high-powered SSRs in content that's harder than Advent Ragnaroks. SRs just won't cut it, especially for Burst damage.

Light is fine for now (so long as you have Diana or Amaterasu), as it has some good SRs that can fill essential utility skills that players would otherwise need the EX slot / Soul for. But Light isn't going to scale very well when more difficult content comes along, especially prior to the 2nd Miracle ticket and Sol's Awakening. Accessory Quests are coming soon (probably in the next month), so you'll get a chance to see for yourself. IMO, relying on Sniper Shot being slotted at all times is a pretty fundamental weakness. That goes for Thunder too.