Snow Raphael's debuffs are "only" 3% stronger than Belphegor's, he would end with -35% Atk / -50% Def instead of -32% Atk / -47% Def
Sol would be better imo, with that C frame Atk debuff (would end with -50% Atk / -47% Def)
Snow Raphael's debuffs are "only" 3% stronger than Belphegor's, he would end with -35% Atk / -50% Def instead of -32% Atk / -47% Def
Sol would be better imo, with that C frame Atk debuff (would end with -50% Atk / -47% Def)
Yes, but Water has access to an additional -10% ATK from Jorm as friend eidolon. Also, Frost Raphael synergizes well with Cthulhu, as I explained in my guide for Water.
Sol is a fine choice too, but somewhat redundant if you already have Gaia and SSR Nike. And fielding both Gaia and Sol at once would lower damage substantially, which probably isn't desirable.
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Alright, thanks for the help then; I don't know if i will really get cthulhu or just Ares/Titania or even someone totally different yet since I'm only playing for fun and want to get my favorite characters but thanks anyways.
So which legendary soul is the most useful for me right now? i actually wanted to get mordred next cuz i like her but i actually wanna get the best one to round out my team for now.
And what about ryu-oh? is she any good?
It mostly depends on what team you're using and what skills you have available. If you're someone who changes team each event, it will vary as your options and needed skills change.
In general, Mordred is usually a top priority for her Black Propaganda, along with D'Art solely for Sniper Shot. Belphegor and Cybele have a weaker atk/def b-frame debuff which might be enough for regular content. So if you're running water or wind, you can hold on D'art because everything besides Sniper Shot that she has to offer is awful. Mordred does too but it's one of the lowest effect of the ones above but can still be used in the cases you're not running either of those elements or want to grab a different soul. Joan would probably be next in line.
Ryu Oh is very good, she basically removes the need to use Mordred.
Mordred should work great in a Poseidon/Nike unleashed team (preferably with Cthulhu too). Then you can fill the 5th slot with whatever.
Ryu-oh in a vacuum is really good. But in your case specifically, Ryu-oh loses a lot of her allure.
So her skills are a 20% A-frame atk debuff, 20% A-frame def debuff, and adding another orb to the enemy's overdrive meter.
These are all great to have one of each of in your team. But same frame buffs/debuffs don't stack with themselves (in fact, the sole purpose of the A/B/C/etc. frame/class/type/whatever distinction is indicating whether they stack or not). And I don't think overdrive extensions can go beyond 1, but that only interferes with Mordred right now if you go with a water team.
Poseidon has a 20% A-frame atk debuff. Nike unleashed has a 15% A-frame atk debuff. If you add Ryu-oh to this core, then you'll have a couple of skill slots wasted on duplication. You can make the argument that duplication serves as a backup in case the primary version fails to land, but I don't think that is as valuable as adding a new function or something that would stack on top of what you have.
No, that is what makes her so damn good. It frees up your soul from using exclusively Mordred or her Black Propaganda as the EX skill.
And yes, there is a lot of A frame overlap in Water SSRs. That doesn't matter much, since just about all Water SSRs are so damn broken that overlapping one or two skills doesn't matter at all.
Being Mordred-locked in this team is totally worth it if you can just outright add Cthulhu to it.
DEF debuff.
You don't want overlapping debuffs in general because you could've gotten a different kamihime with an actually useful skill instead. This particularly applies if you're spending money on Miracle tickets. Why would you pay money for a less than optimal team?
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Mordred is basically a must for your first or second legendary soul unless you get the black propaganda effect elsewhere (ryu-oh).
I took Arthur as my first and ended up regretting it. Not that Arthur is bad but in hindsight andromeda or mordred are much more versatile.
Then again if you rerolled and have a specific build around your SSR himes that can completely change priority.
I'm curious what people would recommend for me to focus on. I have a number of SSR's scattered over all the types so I haven't really focused on any one type yet. I'm able to blow through Ultimate advents of each type with little issue although most ragnaroks still require an elixir to clear.
I've currently got the following with a good selection of SR's to round out each team.
Dark - Satan, Amon Unleashed
Light - Michael, Sol
Fire - Amaterasu, Acala
Wind - Titania, Odin, Gaia
Water - Shiva, Ryo-Oh
Thunder - Tyr, Raido, Brahma
I'm leaning towards Cthulhu or maybe Savarog for a miracle ticket at this point but any advice would be most welcome.