Thread: Which Kamis to go for with Miracle Tickets?

Originally Posted by MrAir

maybe this will help

That's interesting but not terribly useful without context, such as: explanation / justification of the priorities chosen, how and by whom it was compiled, and if it represents some sort of consensus or just an individual's personal preferences. Just about anyone can take some character portraits and arbitrarily arrange them on a scale with mysterious moon runes to lend them the illusion of credence.

I can't speak for other elements, but for Thunder, it seems okay-ish. I'd rate many slightly lower or higher, but about there.

Well, I don't really agree with the assessment of Athena, rated S there. Sure, Athena is AMAZING... ... against Water. So much to the extent that those who struggle against Water content (Fire mains, Water mains who want to fight Water Accessory quests or something if I've understood right) might want to pick her up with a Miracle Ticket. Not always, but might.

But Thunder mains? Do you really need a powerhouse that works only against Water element, the one thing you're already strong against? I... doubt it. As such, would you really rate her an unconditional S like Mammon...?

Originally Posted by Slashley

But Thunder mains? Do you really need a powerhouse that works only against Water element, the one thing you're already strong against? I... doubt it. As such, would you really rate her an unconditional S like Mammon...?

Well, if you look at the JP next to the asterisk, it says: "The above (diagram) rates the kamihime for challenging quests with a strong-element team (lit. weak-point quests)". Thus my point about context. :P

Hmm... Getting Ama makes sense, but at the same time, it makes me wonder, do you lose damage on it or do yuo still gain even though it's not the same element?

Like, does her debuff infact make you deal more damage instead of having another light, or do you want her for the .. I really don't know what her purpose is except debuff. XD

Originally Posted by Taikos

Hmm... Getting Ama makes sense, but at the same time, it makes me wonder, do you lose damage on it or do yuo still gain even though it's not the same element?

Added DEF debuff massively increases damage. You can use the Advanced Damage Calculator in my Toolbox to directly answer this question. Sadly, the Temporary Effects Damage Calculator still has a bug that mishandles comparisons between groups with different numbers of same-element kamihime, so you can't use that for this usage case. But in general, you lose 15% damage going from 5 to 4 same-element kamihime, while you gain between 1-2% damage for each additional point of defense down. That obviously ignores the benefit of the ATK down, which is also important.

And also, as pointed out above, that's not the only useful skill Amaterasu has.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Added DEF debuff massively increases damage. You can use the Advanced Damage Calculator in my Toolbox to directly answer this question. Sadly, the Temporary Effects Damage Calculator still has a bug that mishandles comparisons between groups with different numbers of same-element kamihime, so you can't use that for this usage case. But in general, you lose 15% damage going from 5 to 4 same-element kamihime, while you gain between 1-2% damage for each additional point of defense down. That obviously ignores the benefit of the ATK down, which is also important.

And also, as pointed out above, that's not the only useful skill Amaterasu has.

Alright, I'll get Ama + someone else, Light Tsuki as mentioned if she's released by then !
Thanks <3

As someone who only has absolutely one SSR (Satan), which is the best SSR to go to with the miracle ticket?

Nike being B rank kinda hurts

Originally Posted by Taikos

Hmm... Getting Ama makes sense, but at the same time, it makes me wonder, do you lose damage on it or do yuo still gain even though it's not the same element?

Like, does her debuff infact make you deal more damage instead of having another light, or do you want her for the .. I really don't know what her purpose is except debuff. XD

Amaterasu is also a +30% Def + Regen on the whole party for 3 turns, and an AOE blind.