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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Jack o Frost gives us Event Quests, but Envy will give us Accessory Quests.
    Oh strange, then I don't know what accessory quests are, since I've found no info on it on the JP wiki under the dark union event.
    What are they & how do they differ from the event quests? xD
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    Event Quests give you free shit during events, like during Advents, clearing Ultimate with a R team will give you a Dragon Eye Shard. Once.

    Accessory Quests are what will be our hardest content I believe, the highest difficulty basically only being possible for whales with perfect SSR teams. Supposedly. You get accessories (you know, rings, earrings, stuff) as rewards which are... uh, I dunno. Elemental attack for specific teams I guess? I haven't really looked into it. I probably should've, but eh.

    I think upgrading these accessories will be extremely Gem intensive, as I think I read that that part is getting nerfed even harder than Awakenings are. To a fraction of the original cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Accessory Quests are what will be our hardest content I believe
    Yup, found the part in JP Wiki that explains what those are now. Apparently tier3 of those quests will already be at ragnarok difficulty, while tier4 of those quests will be much harder than rag even. Saw some videos too, certainly looks... challenging...
    And they're introducing them during an Union Event... RIP Grails, lol.
    Didn't see what those accessories do though specifically, maybe sanahtlig knows?

    Edit: actually found all that info on the jp wiki now... holy shit, the stats on those accessories...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    If my understanding of game mechanics are correct, having Karin and Raiko gives you interesting options. You can stack them for -70% damage, or with Joan, make your entire team completely immune for one turn.
    Damage cut doesn't stack with damage cut, and reflect doesn't stack with reflect (Source). Therefore Joan's damage cut does not stack with Raiko's damage cut.
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    At least back from Crom's Crotch event, you could wait for randoms to give you multiple Joan shields which would all stack. Since I had just started, I'd always get annihilated in a single Overdrive if I didn't wait for -100% from randoms.

    It could be that they've changed that since, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    At least back from Crom's Crotch event, you could wait for randoms to give you multiple Joan shields which would all stack. Since I had just started, I'd always get annihilated in a single Overdrive if I didn't wait for -100% from randoms.

    It could be that they've changed that since, though.
    Looking at it again, there's a line that says "damage cut abilities (lit: ability A class) stack, but elemental resistance (from kamihime skills) doesn't". Even though the table is arranged like the other debuff tables where different classes stack but same classes don't...

    As for Karin, fitting her into a Thunder team is going to be tough without sacrificing on debuffs. Thunder typically needs a debuff in every character slot to reach the caps, and the difference between -40% and -50% is pretty large.
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    the list in jap wiki changed O_O
    before i saw that arc and gaia had different frame in cut damage, so tried it in ixion with awakened gaia and got 0 damage with both cut damage.
    not it seems like there is only 1 frame so it won't stack
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    As for Karin, fitting her into a Thunder team is going to be tough without sacrificing on debuffs. Thunder typically needs a debuff in every character slot to reach the caps, and the difference between -40% and -50% is pretty large.
    It's not like Marduke and Mammon are out yet, so literally the only debuff Thunder characters are Tyr and Raiko.

    In the future, yes. Absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    It's not like Marduke and Mammon are out yet, so literally the only debuff Thunder characters are Tyr and Raiko.

    In the future, yes. Absolutely.
    All decisions should be made with an eye on the future. You won't get Karin unless you roll on her, either with Jewels or money, or pick her up with a Miracle ticket. Rolling on her means sacrificing rolls on something else, like Kirin or Mammon. Although, sadly for Thunder, their +100% eidolon doesn't coincide with a decent SSR kamihime, or even a Thunder SSR at all. Kind of got screwed there.
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    On the other hand, Thunder also gets theirs extremely early. Pretty much at the same time as Fire, really.

    And you can't pick up Karin with a Miracle ticket.

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