Thread: DMM Kamihime Project: SSR Awakening Predictions

Originally Posted by Saberborn

I guess this depends on what you define as a whale, but limited are for only whales? Okay, maybe what I'm going to suggest is a bit out there but my plan to get thunder Aphrodite and/or Dark Amaterasu next December/January by just saving all my jewels (at 20K now.... maybe 120K by then). I figure if I pay a bit here and there and am patient I should be able to pick up what I need. Buying all the SSR guaranteed tickets and all miracle tickets (so maybe I'm a whale?). That way I don't need to whale for any of the limited girls... That said, since I'm willing to pay in this game and willing to save jewels that long if I do happen to fail maybe I would just end up whaling in the end... lol.

It takes about 19 10-rolls ($570 or 57k jewels) to have a good chance at landing a given SSR kamihime right now with the 15x appearance bonus. Sure, you can save jewels for a really long time and have a pretty good chance, but you're still at the mercy of RNG. It could take 57k jewels; it could also take 200k if you're unlucky. Counting on a particular limited SSR to round out a build you've been working on for 6 months or more is pretty dangerous; you could trap yourself into a situation where you're desperately throwing away unlimited amounts of money. Compare this to spending 3x $50 on Miracle tickets and/or $50 a month on SSR kamihime tickets (with no expectation of a particular result).

That's why I don't currently incorporate limited kamihime into the majority of my builds. If there's demand I'll certainly consider it however.

Originally Posted by LeCrestfallen

Did you actually read what sanahtlig wrote?

Yes debuffs can miss, that happens. Part of the game. Nothing is absolute.
The problem is, the HEAVY relience on this one single debuff. If this one single debuff misses, all your damage collapses, a high risk of your following debuffs not applying, and worst case ending the run in this very moment. This is a very real concern, which you simply treatet as not a big deal.

It is an extremely risky gamble to take. Its not so bad if you have several sources of def down/atk down, or your grid is strong enough to bulldoze through despite missing debuffs, but thats not an option for everyone.

Its not risky, debuffs are there to help you, not to make your team strong, if you rely on your debuffs too much, you are doing things wrong, what makes your team strong is your grid, and yes having a strong grid is an option for everyone, cause theres no need to whale to have a strong grid that can faceroll actual content, if you think im wrong take a look at dysnomia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U9r_Sv6tY8&t=442s rely on debuffs instead of your grid and you will fail miserably like this guy (dysnomia is almost inmune to debuffs before you ask).

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

It takes about 19 10-rolls ($570 or 57k jewels) to have a good chance at landing a given SSR kamihime right now with the 15x appearance bonus. Sure, you can save jewels for a really long time and have a pretty good chance, but you're still at the mercy of RNG. It could take 57k jewels; it could also take 200k if you're unlucky. Counting on a particular limited SSR to round out a build you've been working on for 6 months or more is pretty dangerous; you could trap yourself into a situation where you're desperately throwing away unlimited amounts of money. Compare this to spending 3x $50 on Miracle tickets and/or $50 a month on SSR kamihime tickets (with no expectation of a particular result).

That's why I don't currently incorporate limited kamihime into the majority of my builds. If there's demand I'll certainly consider it however.

You do have a good point... nothing is guaranteed regarding limited. Praying I'll at least get Thunder Aphrodite. If I don't I doubt I'll whale.... I tried that for a short while with Belial and after 40,000 NG enough was enough.

Originally Posted by Ikki

-- you just contradict yourself saying that aphro in thunder is for whales and then saying that your "builds" rely on the outcomes of miracle tickets (those arent free btw, so your builds are whale oriented too (?) damn the reasoning),--

Miracle tickets are 50 bucks each, so 200 bucks a year. Compared to 500-2000+ dollars EACH limited Hime, the scale is... quite different.

Originally Posted by Ikki

Its not risky, debuffs are there to help you, not to make your team strong, if you rely on your debuffs too much, you are doing things wrong, --

Literally the only element that can have some success is without debuffs is Fire, due to Svarog and Uriel having the few buffs in this game worth casting. Even then Fire relies on debuffs. You're literally doing double damage with them, after all.


By the way, if you're going to reply this much, could I ask you to please type with proper grammar? Also, please spoiler your signature - it is quite huge. Thank you!

Also Ikki, not sure why you have your team proudly displayed in your signature. You don't have Amaterasu and you're using Agni, why? Grats on leveling Awakened Svarog so quickly I guess...?

Originally Posted by Saberborn

Also Ikki, not sure why you have your team proudly displayed in your signature. You don't have Amaterasu and you're using Agni, why? Grats on leveling Awakened Svarog so quickly I guess...?

He doesn't have Amaterasu, he runs a shitty girl like Acala or Ares, he runs Uriel while having zero debuff support, healing or anything, doesn't have Brynhilder.

His team Is a joke he defends this saying that he has a good grid, everyone has a good grid...
Congratulations for him since she's probably flexing on the only weak sauce SSR he has, probably doesn't even have a full decent team.

Forgot to add, that's his main, god forbids he shows his worst one. But he's apparently one whose expertise on the game extends over two servers and he only excels in the topic: 'saying random nuisance without facts to back it out and defending his argument behind elementary school insults'.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

He doesn't have Amaterasu, he runs a shitty girl like Acala or Ares, he runs Uriel while having zero debuff support, healing or anything, doesn't have Brynhilder.

His team Is a joke he defends this saying that he has a good grid, everyone has a good grid...
Congratulations for him since she's probably flexing on the only weak sauce SSR he has, probably doesn't even have a full decent team.

I dont have a need to highlight all my teams with its respective grids, its just pointless, and if you think you need bryn in a proper fire team, then you are indeed clueless, i would advice you to play the game instead of spouting nonsense, apparently you are blind too cause gawain covers the 40% def , i would gladly use ammy if i had her along with mars (since im saving for her, hopefully i get her), next time do your research before coming here, bryn is a must for weak af users like you, i dont use her cause i dont need too, she was a dps loss for my team and her heal is useless for me, agni works better with her fire atk buff to oneshot AQ with my fb on last boss and easier clear on the first wave mobs, hope this explanation works for you unless you are as dumb as i think and you wont get it.

PS: Whos Brynhilder btw?

Originally Posted by Saberborn

You don't have Amaterasu and you're using Agni, why?

Was trying agni for her buff to push my fb a bit, just testing numbers, but the diff isnt that big so ill prob go back to another unit like raguel bryn or raga, unless i get lucky on the next spotlight and i get mars or ammy.

Did I hit a nerve? You even changed your shameful banner, adorable.
For one, I don't care about your personal beliefs nor was talking to you, all I was saying was the truth, anyways, good luck reaching -40% attack oh wait you can't, then good luck with black propaganda, wait you can't extend overdrive or remove meters.
Since healing is out of the question "it's a damage per turn loss" (also no dps smirk here, this is no MMORPG) then I'll assume you run a full assault grid, what are you at then like 6000 HP? Good luck in 'Guild quest order', that ain't no easy type 4 accessory quest milestone.
Talk to me about how much of a "pro" you are when you hit for 48-55k on normal hits against an off attribute ragnarok kiddo.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Good luck in 'Guild quest order', that ain't no easy type 4 accessory quest milestone.
Talk to me about how much of a "pro" you are when you hit for 48-55k on normal hits against an off attribute ragnarok kiddo.

Guild Order is hard for you? I thought you would mention Tower since thats the hard content in dmm right? proper players farm world ragnaroks and GO like nothing, good to know that you struggle in them, no need to take you seriously then, and i changed my signature cause slash was right it was big af, anyways, good luck to you on Tower, you will need it apparently lul.