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    Just wondering if the SSR weapon is worth using.
    I saved plenty of jewels trying to get osiris and failed, so i use andromeda/cassi in dark formation.
    My grid have 2 defender weapon so i may replace on of them or one of the SR guns from raid boss.
    But, is that weapon worth using to begin with?
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    I'd say a pride weapon definitely has more value than a defender weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN View Post
    Just wondering if the SSR weapon is worth using.
    I saved plenty of jewels trying to get osiris and failed, so i use andromeda/cassi in dark formation.
    My grid have 2 defender weapon so i may replace on of them or one of the SR guns from raid boss.
    But, is that weapon worth using to begin with?
    My team is: cassi/andromeda, satan, hades, susanoo, ren and beelzebub+nyarla in sub
    In general I'd value Pride weapons way above Assault (as long as you're not running something crazy like double healer + regen build or something). Also, after playing with +50% HP (skill level 20 + skill level 16 SSR Defenders + 20% from Eidolon), I have to say... wow. That HP gets you really far.

    It does depend on content, but I'd say by default keep two Defenders on and also use the Pride weapon. For me, swapping one SSR Defender for a skill level 20 SSR Assault would be a 5% damage increase, which certainly is no minor thing. However, that would hurt my survival ability a lot. And using double Elemental Eidolons would be 12% damage increase, so that's where I'd first look for more damage.

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    SSR weapons are reliably better than SR weapons, regardless of the skill they come with. The stat difference alone is usually enough to mitigate the damage difference to 2-4%. After that, it's +2% damage (SR assault) vs. whatever bonus the SSR provides. Even if that's +8% HP (stacked with several HP buffs), it's still worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    SSR weapons are reliably better than SR weapons, regardless of the skill they come with. The stat difference alone is usually enough to mitigate the damage difference to 2-4%. After that, it's +2% damage (SR assault) vs. whatever bonus the SSR provides. Even if that's +8% HP (stacked with several HP buffs), it's still worth it.
    so in other words i should replace 1 of my dark gun for the axe for the difference in attack and also the skill will do the difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    In general I'd value Pride weapons way above Assault (as long as you're not running something crazy like double healer + regen build or something). Also, after playing with +50% HP (skill level 20 + skill level 16 SSR Defenders + 20% from Eidolon), I have to say... wow. That HP gets you really far.

    It does depend on content, but I'd say by default keep two Defenders on and also use the Pride weapon. For me, swapping one SSR Defender for a skill level 20 SSR Assault would be a 5% damage increase, which certainly is no minor thing. However, that would hurt my survival ability a lot. And using double Elemental Eidolons would be 12% damage increase, so that's where I'd first look for more damage.
    so according to that, as i already have 2 defender weapons in my grid, then weapon that should replaced 1 of my dark guns for the pride axe?
    also as we start to get weapons with 2 skills i guess they also can be counted as "defender" weapons, so i may replace my defender axe (or..another gun) for valentine's sword.

    i'm not sure yet, but think i'll give up on using pride weapons in my water team, we'll get 2 of them in a row after frost so..sucks for me.
    it's not as crazy team as you described, but if i can get ssr nike or aphrodite it may be a team that can be with high HP in most cases (aside of crazy stuff like accessory quest, guild order, ragnarok raid bosses etc..)
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    Correct me if i am wrong, but don't pride weapons give per skill level .5% attack and HP, and the lower your HP drop, you get additional flat % to attack?
    basicly assault and defender in one.

    i am referring to this table though.
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...ride_Skill.jpg

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